From: measekite on
HOW DUZ UR GARDIN GRO

Mary wrote:

>"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>To get back to this for a minute:
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>>>>MPUSBPRN01 refers to the virtual port your printer is on, for
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>example
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>>>>if you had two printers of the same type one would be MPUSBPRN01
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>and
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>>>>the other would be MPUSBPRN02. When you do a file print look for
>>>>"where" and which ever printer spews out paper is that one.
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>>>I've only got one printer and its USB01.
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>I was thinking later that my Epson Bjc 2100 was USB01 before when I had
>it installed, but when I got the ip1500, it installed on MPUSBPRN01, and
>though I don't have the BJC2100 installed now or connected to the
>computer, the ip1500 still used MPUSBPRN01. Where does it get MP?
>Regardless, the ip1500 has been assigned to MPUSBPRN01 and is accepted
>as that on the utility, but other buttons pressed does not reset.
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>>You got me there... I would expect something like IPUSBPRN01 as in
>>Canon pixma IP series usb printer number one, not Canon MP series usb
>>printer number one.... but often canon uses the same roms between
>>printers. Somewhere inside the printer it probally says "I'm
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>MPUSBPRN"
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>It must.
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>>>Then you click on Quit to Exit,
>>>but I wonder if you only know it worked if the error message doesn't
>>>come on the screen next time or if its set right, there is some
>>>confirmation message.
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>>Got me... I have not used this software. The manual... likely the
>>service manual... would actually spell it out for ya. Problem is I
>>only have the ip4000 service manual which doesn't employ the "service
>>tool" but rather oddball button presses.
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>The ones you or was it Burt gave me before for pressing buttons on the
>printer. I only have two buttons on the ip1500. power on and the Resume
>so a couple of things mentioned did not make sense, saying turn on the
>printer when it was already turned on, so I didn't get anywhere with my
>reset with that method either. Oh well, maybe means my printer can't be
>reset for some reason.
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>Mary
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From: measekite on
WITH PEANUT SHELLS

Mary wrote:

>"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message news:03g_f.14379
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>>Mary - You asked, on a previous post, about the large black bci-3ebk
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>tank.
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>>It is actually a benefit as it prints better text and has a large
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>capacity
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>>which means less trips to get refilled, etc.
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>I think I asked you but forget, that being the case above, why wouldn't
>they just have one small black cartridge like other printers? Is the
>ink different? I would think the small one would print good enough. Is
>it a way for Canon to make more money for more carts in the same
>printer?
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>Mary
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From: measekite on
AND A BIG BURTIE FURTIE

Mary wrote:

>"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>>"Mary" <nonon(a)nothin.com> wrote in message
>>news:4439c2e4$0$28237$6d36acad(a)titian.nntpserver.com...
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>>>"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>>>>"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>Do you mean the first time you are refilling after you buy new carts
>>>from the store? The tri color carts from Staples compatibles or
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>Canons
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>>>don't have any plastic tape on them. They just have the hard orange
>>>plastic clips that clip over the colors or black carts. There is no
>>>tape. I can't remember about Epson carts if they had tape or not on
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>the
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>>>bottom where the color comes out after they were refilled. I think
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>they
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>>>did and were sealed in a small plastic bag.
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>>>Mary
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>>Are they plastic wrapped? You need to let air into the cart to permit
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>ink
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>>to come out. Otherwise you create a vacuum. At least that's the way
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>the
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>>bci-6 and bci-3 carts work.
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>We were talking about refilled carts and compatible carts so not sure
>which ones you mean.
>I can't remember if there was tape or not on the refilled ones. The
>compatibles from STaples, do not have any plastic tape on the colors,
>neither does the Canon ones.
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>>Yes, it would be convenient to have an extra
>>set so you don't have to run to the store the minute one runs out. If
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>you
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>>are going to have a cart refilled when you have emptied it that is the
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>time
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>>you need to keep it from drying out. Do the refillers in your area
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>replace
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>>a cap on the bottom or plastic wrap the whole cart so the ink outlet
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>doesn't
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>>get dried out?
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>I think they had plastic around the whole cart, but its been a while, so
>can't be sure.
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>Mary
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From: measekite on
AND COCKEL SHELLS

Mary wrote:

>"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message news:eQj_f.57600
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>>What I meant was to keep the empty carts you take out of the printer
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>in a
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>>sealed container (refrigerator plastic container with tight fitting
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>lid is
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>>OK) before taking them to your refiller. After refilling, the ink
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>outlet
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>>should be sealed and there should be some tape over the air vent on
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>top like
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>>when you buy a new one. I've never used the tricolor cart, but the
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>bci-6
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>>and bci-3ebk carts have tape you remove and other plastic tape you
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>leave on
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>>the top. After refilling I put some tape over the air vent until I'ml
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>ready
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>>to use it and I then take only the tape off just as I would for a new
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>OEM
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>>cart.
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>the bci 3ebk carts are for the ip4000 arent they? I wish they wouldn't
>number the carts like that as they are hard to remember. they should
>just put the model number of the printer on the box (for compatibles or
>other) and you could find them much quicker. I spent ages going back and
>forth last week trying to figure out which printer used which carts as I
>didn't know the cartridge numbers for the printers I was looking at. Its
>a pain.
>with the ip1500, whether compatibles or brand name none have plastic
>tape over the air vent.
>but maybe they do on newer models.
>
>Mary
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From: zakezuke on
> Well, the ip4000 couldn't be any worse for using a ton of ink than the
> Epson C64 I had. It was the C64 that put me off individual ink tanks.

Epson would... when I had the r200 I would refill my tanks all at once.
It wasted less ink. Technicaly I still have my r200 but I don't use
it.

> I didn't realize the HP printers had tiny cartridges. you mean they are
> thimbles as you call them?
> Some HP printers must have bigger carts that are not too expensive.
> The ip1600 seemed to have expensive ink tanks when I checked before -
> and no compatibles. More expensive than ip4000 though the ip1600 is
> cheaper to buy.

There are plenty of HPs which offer larger tanks, but the cheap ones
are thimble class.
Exactly... the cheaper the printer, generally speaking the more costly
the supplies. In terms of raw cost the ip1600 is actually a better
deal, though they are not thimbles.
They have plenty of tanks that offer more pages than the canon. I
would buy an HP printer, I just wouldn't buy one of their cheaper
models.


> > The ip4200 is basicly the same thing as the ip4000 as far as the carts
> > go, same as your ip1500 except bigger and it takes 5 tanks, clear
> > simple tupperware... except they include chips which keep track of how
> > much ink you used.
> Is that to discourage you from refilling them yourself?


Refilling your self is *not* an issue, do it as much as you like...
just without the spiffy chip metering... not sure about the prism
metering. The actual reason I don't honestly know, but I think it's to
discourage people from making compatables as it doesn't affect self
refilling at all. I think it has to do more with warranty claims on
printheads than discouraging refilling. To print, you need a chip,
wihout a chip you can not print. You can print with an old chip that
reads as empty, but there no aftermarket compatable chips.

> Doesn't the 4200 have head and printer carts all in one so would cost
> more to buy carts than one that had a printer head you could take out?

The ip4200 and ip5200 are like your ip1500, as in you have a head, and
ink tanks. You can take out the head, you can take out the tanks.

> Epson never did have a compatible for the C64, though they had some for
> other models. I don't know if they have more compatibles now and the
> name brand cost a fortune. That why I got them refilled but even then,
> they used a ton of ink, and I was glad when something went wrong with it
> in the second year as I had a Staples warranty. thats when I got the
> ip1500.

I don't know all the epson models off the top of my head, but I imagine
there are compatables for it now... there at the very least is
compatable ink. The c64 used Durabite pigment ink, which is a tad more
spendy than dye, but lasts alot longer.

> Is that like Sleepless in Seattle? Isnt Seattle in the middle of
> silicone valley where all the computer places are?

Silicone Valley is in California, where Seattle is about 226km south of
vancouver. There are a few computer places in this area including a
small software company in Redmond... microsoft.

> I think you meant ip 1600 above. You can remove the printhead on the
> 4200 and 1600, but what I got them confused with was with both of them
> you have to buy carts with printhead/ink cart, making the carts more
> expensive to buy than the 4000 which works on a printhead and ink carts
> only.

ip3000/4000/5000/6000/8500
ip4200/5200/6600/7500
All of these... all of these you can detach the head, and all use multi
tanks. 3000/4000/5000/4200/5200/7500 all have a big black

ip1600 on the other hand... two tanks, head on the cart. It is more
spendy.
ip1600 = oddball of the canon line, canon hasn't used head on the cart
in a while.

> I prefer not to refill at all, but prefer compatibles and STaples here
> have not bad prices for compatibles and if they had more $5.00 off all
> Staples compatibles as they had last week would be ok. Even the 4000
> Staples compatibles would only be $5.86 each. I didn't see that large 2
> pack black tank in the store when I lookled last week. I just saw it
> online. I would have to check at a store and might look at another
> Staples tomorrow to see if they have any printers that other stores
> don't have. Most of their stores have the same printers and all have the
> same advertised sales, but some stores have clearance items that other
> stores might not have. On their website, they very seldom have any
> printers on sale.

Well, the fact is things that are easy to refill are cheap to get
compatables for. Less work when dealing with basicly tupperware. This
would include your ip1500, and the ip4000. If you have to get another
printer, the only thing close to what you have is the ip4000. The
ip4200 "may" in the future have cheap compatables but as of this moment
it does not.

> Yeah, the multi tank seems less tanks to think about, and its been ok on
> the ip1500 but I might have to get something else. I am not sure what I
> want to do and only have a couple of days to decide if I want to get the refurb. ip1500..

Sounds like your happy with it, and while you would lose your year
warranty, you know your old one lasted a year. However, be ready to
save your pennies for another printer after about a year or so as even
a light user like your self is going to get a full diaper, and you can
seem to reset it. If you can reset the diaper on the new printer, you
can also likely get another head. It may be this printer will cost you
$50 a year above and beyond ink, which is actually not unresonable. It
may also be that you just got a bum one. I can say the ip4000 is one
of those printers you can expect to last 3 years or more without
trouble, and the ip1500 is more geard tward people who would rather
shell out $70 a year for a cheap printer every year than spend $120 on
a printer once every three years, though the staples warranty does
bridge the gap between frugaly foolish and somewhat sound.

But "worst" case scenero... if you wait and the ip4000 is totally
gone... the ip4200 is a fine printer that would just require refilling
yourself or at your friendly neighborhood filling station. I'm unsure
on the hp 8250. which may be lower in price by that point. I would
think you'd be able to find the ip4200 onsale as Canon wants people to
buy it. They don't want you buying the ip4000.