From: Gary Tait on 11 Apr 2006 11:36 "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in news:e1f2cp$nf2$1(a)emma.aioe.org: > I can't remember if there was tape or not on the refilled ones. The > compatibles from STaples, do not have any plastic tape on the colors, > neither does the Canon ones. > The aftermarket BCI24s I bought did have tape on the vent.
From: measekite on 11 Apr 2006 11:59 OH MY GOD NOW ITS TATER TOT AND MARY MARY QUITE CONTRARY Gary Tait wrote: >"Mary" <nonon(a)nothin.com> wrote in >news:4439b9d9$0$28240$6d36acad(a)titian.nntpserver.com: > > > > >>But even when you print colors, some black is used in the mix isn't >>it? and wouldn't the small black be used for this? >> >> > >On non-plain paper, yes. > > >>I am still wondring about the large two pack black being $20.00 for >>two when I was pretty sure in the store that it was $20.00 for one. >>There is usually not that much difference in price from the store and >>online. they are much the same usually. >> >> > >Differences in scale and overhead. > > > > >>>When the towel dries, the bag becomes humid, and this helps keeping >>> >>> >>the >> >> >>>outlet hole from becoming gunked up, but your right you should pay >>>attention to your bit o' towel and make sure it's moist. I have no >>>clue how long a uncapped cartridge lasts bagged with or without a >>>towel. I keep all my tabs from the store bought tanks and tape them >>> >>> >>to >> >> >>>the tanks. The OEM shelf life, capped with plastic covering the >>> >>> >>inlet, >> >> >>>is somewhere in the years catagory. >>> >>> >>So that would be the same with Staples compatibles which have plastic >>pieces clipped to the colors and they are in small sealed plastic >>bags,so they should be ok for a long time. >> >> > >No, he is talking of how to keep empty carts you wish to refill. > >Prefilled carts you buy should come as you said above. > > >>Mary >> >> >>
From: Gary Tait on 11 Apr 2006 12:11 "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in news:e1fa85$ls9$1(a)emma.aioe.org: > "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1144724742.805658.317500(a)i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Some HP printers must have bigger carts that are not too expensive. > The ip1600 seemed to have expensive ink tanks when I checked before - > and no compatibles. More expensive than ip4000 though the ip1600 is > cheaper to buy. Yuo have to stop seeing the to buy price and look at the to run price. >> Well, at least looking at the tanks you "know' how much is left. In >> the case of Epson it's totally an estimate. The ip4000 at the very >> least uses a prism that alerts you when it's down to 20%, and you know >> full well you have 20% left. There isn't a meter that give you scaled >> levels. The ip4200 does but this would be disabled if you refill >> manualy. I have no more data yet on this series... only had one for a >> week. > > Yes, you could see what is left, but you can do that onscreen by using > the printer monitor which shows a picture of whats left in carts. and > that way,you don't have to take the cart out of the printer to look. I > would probably end up looking at the carts though. That picture is an estimation though. AFAIK, there is no cost effective definate way to measure the fulness of an ink cartridge on a consumer inkjet printer. The cheapest way is to could expelled ink droplets. >> >> The ip4200 is basicly the same thing as the ip4000 as far as the carts >> go, same as your ip1500 except bigger and it takes 5 tanks, clear >> simple tupperware... except they include chips which keep track of how >> much ink you used. > > Is that to discourage you from refilling them yourself? The warnings it gives might though. > When empty it warns you three times or so before >> giving you a warning "proceed at you own risk". Then it disables the >> meter. There are no compatable tanks for this yet, but you can refill >> the existing tanks... mail order or that fill as you wait place. What >> I don't know is if you disable the meter if the prism still works... I >> have not had the printer long enough. > Doesn't the 4200 have head and printer carts all in one so would cost > more to buy carts than one that had a printer head you could take out? No, it uses separate tanks, however the tanks are chipped, so there are no aftermarket tanks (as of yet). >> > Burt say that the Canon 4200 has no compatibles. You have to buy > brand >> > name? >> >> No compatable tanks, refilling your tanks is OK... which is rather why >> we both were pushing the ip4000. It has compatable inks and tanks up >> the yazoo. You will not be inkless in Toronto... where as I with my >> ip5200 am inkless in seattle. > > Is that like Sleepless in Seattle? Isnt Seattle in the middle of > silicone valley where all the computer places are? > The "Silicone Valley" would be the San Fernando Valley ;) (part of Los Angeles) What you mean is the Silicon Valley, sount of San Francisco. However, the Seattle area does have a strong software industry. (Silicon Valley being mostly hardware), TMK. >> > I notice the 4200 is much the same price as >> > the 4000 in Staples. I thought I saw the 4200 on sale not long ago, > but >> > it kind of puts me off the printhead and cart in one makes > cartridges >> > more money, and no compatibles and may never be. >> >> the ip4200 is like your ip1600 in the fact you can remove the head... >> and if it fails canon will send you a new one during the one year >> warranty period. > > I think you meant ip 1600 above. You can remove the printhead on the > 4200 and 1600, but what I got them confused with was with both of them > you have to buy carts with printhead/ink cart, making the carts more > expensive to buy than the 4000 which works on a printhead and ink carts > only. The 1600, at least, is the only printer only you need the head-on-cart ink tanks. The 4200 uses a separate head, you rpelace only the tanks. > > Yeah, the multi tank seems less tanks to think about, and its been ok on > the ip1500 but I might have to get something else. I am not sure what I > want to do and only have a couple of days to > decide if I want to get the refurb. ip1500.. You are going to pay to not have to think about tanks. > > We don't have London Drugs in Toronto. I guess they would be in London, > Ontario which is not near Toronto. London is closer to Windsor, which is Actually, there are no London Drugs outlets in London, asn LD are a western Canada chain. > close to Detroit. They might call them this in London and some other > cities and towns, but its a big country, and in Western or Eastern > Canada, maybe they call them something else altogether, like pic > stations :) I've only hear people say I am going to the picture machine > in Walmart or wherever or I am going to print photos on one of those > photo printing machines. I think people use different terms for it. We > haven't had these machines all that long to get a uniform name for them. I call them "digital photo kiosks" The one I am familiar with apparently has an HP printer. I think they could be run by a Mac. > > I wouldn't figure it that way. I think of the printer as one price and > the ink another like separate things. > You have to not figure it that way though. Or at least deduct the price of a set of cartd from the sale price of the printer.
From: zakezuke on 11 Apr 2006 12:52 > The ones you or was it Burt gave me before for pressing buttons on the > printer. I only have two buttons on the ip1500. power on and the Resume > so a couple of things mentioned did not make sense, saying turn on the > printer when it was already turned on, so I didn't get anywhere with my > reset with that method either. Oh well, maybe means my printer can't be > reset for some reason. I forget the exact instruction block, but I imagine the confusion at this level is what is on, and what is off. Pressing and holding power does not turn the printer on. This is a step to get the printer into service mode. It's very much like being on except it won't print, and the on button becomes the enter button. ---- Step 2 : Software for Permanant (2nd method) 1. Reconnect the USB cable and turn ON your Printer 2. Open "General Tools for iP1500", http://www.printersiam.com/data/download/iP1500%20Service%20Tool.zip 3. Select (USB PORT) 4. Choose CLEAR WASTE INK COUNTER - MAIN 5. Choose CLEAR WASTE INK COUNTER - PLATEN ----http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/30101 ----- There are the keystroke instructions Step 1: Manual for Service mode (1st method) 1. Unplug POWER and USB cables. 2. Open door, PRESS and HOLD the POWER button. 3. Connect the POWER cable. 4. Close door, then release POWER button. 5. Power ON your printer a usual (It should not blinking anymore) Step 1: Manual for Service mode (2nd method) 1. Unplug POWER and USB cables. 2. PRESS and HOLD the POWER button, 3. Connect the POWER cable. 3. Release the the POWER button 4. Power ON your printer a usual (It should not blinking anymore) http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/30101
From: zakezuke on 11 Apr 2006 16:14
> I am still wondring about the large two pack black being $20.00 for two > when I was pretty sure in the store that it was $20.00 for one. There is > usually not that much difference in price from the store and online. > they are much the same usually. Oh I should add it looks like atlantic inkjet is a spiffy place to shop for compatables in the US and Canada. http://www.atlanticinkjet.com/canon.asp?Nation=CAN Ip-1500 CDN $2.45 black 1.6c/page ip-1500 cdn $4.45 color $6.9 plus shipping 3x = $20.70 plus shipping ip-4000 Big black BCI-3e BK $3.95 0.8c/page color and small black $3.85 each 19.35 plus shipping I'm too lazy to work out the math but it looks like three ip1500 tanks is close enough to the same price as 1 set of ip4000 tanks that the difference is smallish, except the black i'm pretty sure is double the cost for the ip1500 from this reseller per page. But either way these guys IIRC beat out staples even when taking shipping into account. I've not bought from these guys yet, but the price is reasonable esp since the price is the same in canadian and us dollars, so Canadians spend less. But either way... $28 bucks will get you a good amount of supplies for either printer. Shipping CDN $6.49... no ink crossing the border, no customs. |