Question re Canon iP1500
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From: Mary on 12 Apr 2006 13:25 "Gary Tait" <classicsat(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns97A385292CF9Ewonkynillmailnil(a)142.77.1.194... > "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in news:e1hmcv$ba1$1(a)emma.aioe.org: > > > "Gary Tait" <classicsat(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > >> > >> Yuo have to stop seeing the to buy price and look at the to run > price. > > > > I look at all angles, not just one. You have to look at the whole > > picture. > > > > The run price is the whole picture. I partly agree with that, but you also have to buy the printer and be able to afford the purchase price before you even get to the "run" part. So the balance is buy a printer you can afford and try to get one which is not too expensive to run, which means compatibles, refilling if thats your thing, and not brand names carts which will be more expensive to run than the other ways. > >> That picture is an estimation though. AFAIK, there is no cost > > effective > >> definate way to measure the fulness of an ink cartridge on a consumer > >> inkjet printer. The cheapest way is to could expelled ink droplets. > > > > Do you mean "count" expelled ink droplets? > > Yes. Bad typist I be. How an you count expelled ink droplets? Seeing the ink through the tanks doesn't let you figure out droplets, but is probably the best way to give you an idea how much ink is left. > >> Actually, there are no London Drugs outlets in London, asn LD are a > >> western Canada chain. > > > > I've vaguely heard of it but never knew where they were located. > > > >> > >> I call them "digital photo kiosks" The one I am familiar with > > apparently > >> has an HP printer. I think they could be run by a Mac. > > > > Thats another name I have never heard them called. ARe you in Canada? > > > > Mary > > > Yes, wester Ontario. I would take that to mean Sarnia? Windsor? Chatham,London? (I'd have to look at a map to see what citiers/towns are in western Ontario - Ontario is a big place). I am in Toronto which is south-central Ontario not too far from U.S. border. Mary
From: measekite on 12 Apr 2006 14:04 SOUND LIKE AN OLD MAID BAG LADY Mary wrote: >"Gary Tait" <classicsat(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:Xns97A385292CF9Ewonkynillmailnil(a)142.77.1.194... > > >>"Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in news:e1hmcv$ba1$1(a)emma.aioe.org: >> >> >> >>>"Gary Tait" <classicsat(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> >>> >>>>Yuo have to stop seeing the to buy price and look at the to run >>>> >>>> >>price. >> >> >>>I look at all angles, not just one. You have to look at the whole >>>picture. >>> >>> >>> >>The run price is the whole picture. >> >> > >I partly agree with that, but you also have to buy the printer and be >able to afford the purchase price before you even get to the "run" part. >So the balance is buy a printer you can afford and try to get one which >is not too expensive to run, which means compatibles, refilling if thats >your thing, and not brand names carts which will be more expensive to >run than the other ways. > > > >>>>That picture is an estimation though. AFAIK, there is no cost >>>> >>>> >>>effective >>> >>> >>>>definate way to measure the fulness of an ink cartridge on a >>>> >>>> >consumer > > >>>>inkjet printer. The cheapest way is to could expelled ink droplets. >>>> >>>> >>>Do you mean "count" expelled ink droplets? >>> >>> >>Yes. Bad typist I be. >> >> > >How an you count expelled ink droplets? Seeing the ink through the tanks >doesn't let you figure out droplets, but is probably the best way to >give you an idea how much ink is left. > > > >>>>Actually, there are no London Drugs outlets in London, asn LD are a >>>>western Canada chain. >>>> >>>> >>>I've vaguely heard of it but never knew where they were located. >>> >>> >>> >>>>I call them "digital photo kiosks" The one I am familiar with >>>> >>>> >>>apparently >>> >>> >>>>has an HP printer. I think they could be run by a Mac. >>>> >>>> >>>Thats another name I have never heard them called. ARe you in >>> >>> >Canada? > > >>>Mary >>> >>> >>> >>Yes, wester Ontario. >> >> > >I would take that to mean Sarnia? Windsor? Chatham,London? (I'd have to >look at a map to see what citiers/towns are in western Ontario - Ontario >is a big place). I am in Toronto which is south-central Ontario not too >far from U.S. border. > >Mary > > >
From: measekite on 12 Apr 2006 14:05 TATER TOT AND MARY MARY QUITE CONTRARY Gary Tait wrote: >"Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in news:e1hmcv$ba1$1(a)emma.aioe.org: > > > >>"Gary Tait" <classicsat(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> >>>Yuo have to stop seeing the to buy price and look at the to run >>> >>> >price. > > >>I look at all angles, not just one. You have to look at the whole >>picture. >> >> >> > >The run price is the whole picture. > > >>>That picture is an estimation though. AFAIK, there is no cost >>> >>> >>effective >> >> >>>definate way to measure the fulness of an ink cartridge on a consumer >>>inkjet printer. The cheapest way is to could expelled ink droplets. >>> >>> >>Do you mean "count" expelled ink droplets? >> >> > >Yes. Bad typist I be. > > > > >>>Actually, there are no London Drugs outlets in London, asn LD are a >>>western Canada chain. >>> >>> >>I've vaguely heard of it but never knew where they were located. >> >> >> >>>I call them "digital photo kiosks" The one I am familiar with >>> >>> >>apparently >> >> >>>has an HP printer. I think they could be run by a Mac. >>> >>> >>Thats another name I have never heard them called. ARe you in Canada? >> >>Mary >> >> >> >Yes, wester Ontario. > >
From: zakezuke on 13 Apr 2006 02:22 > There are some things I like about the IP1500, but I really don't think > I am as set on it as you think, or about tri color, though at the start, > it was more the case. If it were completely true, I would have phoned > Canon yesterday and told them to send me the refurb one but I have been > indecisive and that has been my problem.. But I have slowly come to > think that maybe you and Zak were right about the ip400, that it is a > better printer, but that was after I found out that when I checked in > Staples a couple of days ago and found out the ip4000 carts are not as > expensive as I had thought and maybe won't be as hard on ink as the > Epson I had. But the ip4000 is not available now anyway. I would > consider the 4200 but they have no compatibles and yes, I must admit I > want a printer with compatible carts so that part is true whatever > printer I get. I think one of my other messages got lost in the shuffle. There is always themp760 and mp780, last I looked $200 and $400 on the staples website. The mp750 isn't. These are mutli-fuctions based on the ip4000. Here is the low down mp750 - scanner, sheetfeeder, no fax mp760 - scanner, slide scanner, no fax mp780 - scanner, sheet feeder, fax Ok, the price went up to $229.97 since I looked at it earlier today If you replaced your inktanks about 10 times on your ip1500... odds are you will not save enough in a year to justify the purchace of the mp760 @ $230, assuming staples compatables. It's safe to assume about a 3.3 to 1 ratio between the tanks for the ip1500 vs the ip4000, which any of the above is. Also this series, the mp750/760/780 is a big honking beast even in contrast to the ip4000.
From: zakezuke on 13 Apr 2006 15:07
Mary wrote: > > > I look at all angles, not just one. You have to look at the whole > > > picture. > > > > > > > The run price is the whole picture. > > I partly agree with that, but you also have to buy the printer and be > able to afford the purchase price before you even get to the "run" part. > So the balance is buy a printer you can afford and try to get one which > is not too expensive to run, which means compatibles, refilling if thats > your thing, and not brand names carts which will be more expensive to > run than the other ways. The whole picture is 1. Entry price 2. cost to operate With OEM, or the name brand ink, entry price is not an issue. They come with ink which is typicaly $60 to $80. When the ink is $80 and the printer is $100, your basicly spending $20 for the printer. There are times when the printer is cheaper than the ink. With aftermarket, entry cost does inter the picture. When the supplies only cost you $20 to $50, that $100 printer is basicly a $50-$80 printer. Either way, unless you are buying bulk ink, you will end up spending more on supplies than the printer. In the case of the ip1500, a thimble class printer, if you are burning 10 cartridges per year even with aftermarket.... you stand to save upgrading to the entry level class in under a year. If you are burning 10 cartridges per year on something like the ip4000/4200/5200/5000, unless you really like the quality of the images, it's worth considering upgrading to laser, phaser, or something like a business jet. OEM 10 cartridges on the ip4200. We are after all talking $1000/year, and for photos one can always hold off and printbooth their way to happyness and save up for a reasonably ecconomic model. |