From: Mary on
"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in message
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> > I finally decided yesterday to phone Canon to send me a refurb
ip1500.
>
> (snip)
> >
> > I think I made the right decision and will turn out for the best,
> > because when I phoned Canon, I asked is there any warranty on the
> > refurb, and he said only whats left on your year warranty with us,
which
> > is only a few days, so there wouldn't be any, but all the refurb
> > printers have been checked by our technicians. I then began to
wonder if
> > it was such a good idea with no warranty at all, so I said I guess
my
> > Staples warranty would not be valid if I get a refurb from you, and
he
> > said yes, its still valid, I asked about serial numbers, and he said
> > doesn't matter,(snip)
>
> > Mary
> >
> Mary - Glad it worked out OK. It's good that Staples will still honor
the
> extended warranty.

Yes, I was very glad about that. I thought they might not. I guess they
just sent the printers back to the manufacturer as defective.

I just checked out the web site for the bulk inks that I
> use and they have the OEM carts for the ip1500 as well as their own
brand
> compatable carts. The ink in the compatables is probably not the same
as
> the ink I buy bulk, but this company has been very reliable. The
link for
> these carts is
>
> http://www.inksupply.com/canoncarts_xx.cfm
>
> They do ship to Canada. If you check out their Support/customer
service
> menu you will find info about shipping to Canada. It appears that
they use
> the US postal service for these shipments. It would be worthwhile to
buy a
> few of each cart to cut down the shipping price per cart. I've
ordered from
> them by using my credit card.

It depends on the method they send, whether small packet or Global
priority small or medium packet which are more money than small packet.
I've received packages from the US from individuals but not companies.
All the ones I got were small packet which is up to 2 lbs or something.
I checked the International calculator which refers you to USPS site,
and you would need to know approx. weight of package that was being sent
and that goes by how many cartridges. I found the cartridges shipping a
bit confusing on the MSI site. I couldn't figure out how much shipping
price is which has to be calculated in.

I don't know how Canada deals with import
> duty, but you might be able to find out by contacting the proper
government
> office and describing the items you will import (computer printer ink)
and
> approximate value (probably less than $50 US.)

I don't need to contact them I used to work there and know how it works.
I also have had stuff sent to me from the US from individuals when I
used to buy a few things here and there from Ebay.

We have very measly Customs exemptions - if anything over $18.00 US, we
pay no duty from the US but pay 15% Ontario tax which is two taxes. We
pay that here too for domestic purchases except food. You don't have to
think about things like that because your exemption is something like
$200.00 before you have to pay any tax. And our dollar is high against
the US dollar for the last year or so. $1 US =.87 cents Can. But just
for example, $50.00 US = $57.50 Can. plus 15% = $66.12 Can. plus say
shipping of $6.00 US =$6.90 Can.plus $5.00 for Canada Post "handling"
fee as they collect money for Customs, so now total is around $73.12.
But I don't know how many cartridges $50.00 would buy but just an
example. I don't need any right now.
I bought 5 black carts at Staples onsale last week for $2.00 Can. each -
thats about $1.80 US. You won't beat that price anywhere, and color for
$15.00 Can.. For all I know, the refurb printer may not last long and I
will have a bunch of carts I don't need, but if they are Staples, at
least I can take them back, if within 30 days.

Without bothering with Canada Customs who would likely charge tax though
sometimes they let the package go, but you can't count on it, I think I
could buy compatibles cheaper at Atlantic inkjet online, a Canadian
company and another one in Canada somebody on the NG maybe Zak mentioned
somebody else. I will have to look for it. This thread is so long now I
can't find anything. I save messages I need to answer, or would never
find them again :)

> Another vendor that has the cartridge for your printer is Weink. I've
never
> done business with them, but (other than the troll's nasty comments
about
> them) I've seen more than one positive post about them. The link is
>
>
http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/responsible_brand_bci-21_24_cartridges_for_canon_2772383.htm

I checked that one but I couldn't find any shipping costs. That has to
be included.

> I'd encourage you to consider trying the inksupply.com product. Since
you
> are already using compatable carts and would like to keep one extra
cart as
> a backup anyway, you may as well buy online and get at least two of
each in
> an order. They are so inexpensive that it would be worth a try.

I will check out Canadian online ink sites and see what they charge for
compatibles. The US site would have to be much cheaper to make it worth
my while, since it is much more convenient to buy carts online in Canada
, as long as the carts are good quality of course. Maybe MSI will be
cheaper. I don't know. It is something I will have to check.

> By the time you need to replace this printer the ip4200 may have
compatable
> carts and you can move up somewhat in class of printers and get your
> supplies down to a lower cost.

Yes, the 4200 might eventually get compatibles. The Ip1500 carts are
quite cheap at Staples, though but of course they are thimbles as you
all say :)

Mary

From: Mary on
"Taliesyn" <taliesyn4(a)netscape.net> wrote in message

Taliesyn, do you know of Canadian online sites who sell compatibles who
have good quality ink and good prices and good service? I know about
Atlantic Inkjet but what is it like and are there others just as good ?

Mary

From: Tony on
Gary Tait <classicsat(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in news:e1mlks$tpq$1(a)emma.aioe.org:
>
>>> It's doubtful the diaper needs to be full to reset.
>>
>> Something in the service manual gives this impression.
>>
>
>It shouldn't. My i320 never had any sensors fixed to or otherwise detecting
>the condition of the waste ink pad, and I doubt and other lower end printer
>would either.

Gary
The issue that Mary has been trying to overcome is that the Canon service
programme will not reset either of the waste ink counters. The message that the
printer is reporting is "Waste ink absorber almost full" (or similar). I know
that at some time it will read "Waste ink absorber full" and prevent printing
altogether. I am guessing (only speculation) that it will not permit reset
until the Full message is posted. I agree that here is no sensor in or on the
pads in this or any other inkjet I am aware of, the condition of the waste pads
is an estimate. The service manual indicates that the resets are available when
the Full message is posted it does not mention the Almost Full condition. We
know that the utility has correctly identified the printer, it is a simple
utility with very few options and selecting either of the reset options (for
each pad) does nothing but it reports correct information about the printer.
The service manual gives clear instructions on the use of the utility so either
the utility does not work or Mary's printer is unable to be reset for some
unknown reason or the reset only works only when the full, as opposed to almost
full, message is posted.
Tony
From: Mary on
"Gary Tait" <classicsat(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in news:e1jcu9$ltm$1(a)emma.aioe.org:

> > How an you count expelled ink droplets?
>
> The printer knows when it fires an ink droplet, and how big a droplet
it
> is, so it can easily count thise firing (or at least estimate the
> count).
>
> >Seeing the ink through the tanks
> > doesn't let you figure out droplets, but is probably the best way to
> > give you an idea how much ink is left.
>
> But you have to look yourself. There is no cost effective way to have
> the printer "see" the actual ink level, so at best, it counts expelled
> ink, or a one point "low" sensor, such as Canon's Thinktank prism.

I thought I was saying the same thing -You have to look at the tank to
see how low the ink was.

> >> >> I call them "digital photo kiosks" The one I am familiar with
> >> > apparently
> >> >> has an HP printer. I think they could be run by a Mac.
> >> >
> >> > Thats another name I have never heard them called. ARe you in
> > Canada?
> >> >
> >> > Mary
> >> >
> >> Yes, wester Ontario.
> >
> > I would take that to mean Sarnia? Windsor? Chatham,London? (I'd have
> to
> > look at a map to see what citiers/towns are in western Ontario -
> Ontario
> > is a big place). I am in Toronto which is south-central Ontario not
> too
> > far from U.S. border.
> >
> > Mary
>
> North of Sarnia/London quite a bit.

Since you're in Canada, do you know any good online ink sites in Canada?
do you buy ink online? refill your own?

Mary



From: Mary on
> "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message

<snip>

> > The real issue is none of us now jack about that model, and the fact
> > that there are different rom revisions each with their own
procedure,
> > and no way I know of to ask your printer what version it is. I know
> my ip5200 is v1.01, an oddball where everyone else has v1.04.

> Well, we tried everything, and it didn't work out, but not for want of
> trying. Maybe it was the wrong utility. Tony knows more about that.

Upon re-reading what I said above, I think the utility was probably ok.
It was the same one you gave the URL for in one of your posts (IP 1500
tool), but for some unknown reason it didn't clear the absorbers, though
it identified my printer correctly and the USB port seemed ok as I typed
in a couple of other things like USB01 and it just said not valid or
something but it accepted MPUSBPRN01. What does the MP at the beginning
of the USB port mean?

Mary

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