Question re Canon iP1500
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From: measekite on 15 Apr 2006 20:20 THIS IS HARD TO BELIEVE Mary wrote: >"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:1145081409.595096.202140(a)i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > >>Mary wrote: >> >> >>> I am presuming you are talking about soda (we call it pop) and milk >>> >>> >at > > >>>stores in your area?. >>>Milk here is different prices in different supermarkets, but its >>> >>> >always > > >>>the same price at the same store and I've never seen 2 1/2 gallons >>>cheaper than a full gallon. We use litres but same idea. >>>So I've never run into the problem you mention above and believe me >>> >>> >I > > >>>shop a lot - too much sometimes and I pay attention to prices of >>> >>> >foods > > >>>and everything else. >>> >>> >>Yes, pop, east cost N. America tends to prefer pop, west cost N. >>America tends to prefer soda. There was a map at one point showing >>what cities used soda, pop, or soda-pop. >> >> > >A map about something like that? Only in America :) > > > >>>It was an attempt at humor, and my observation of bouncing prices is >>>typical. I would buy some cartridges that are clearly advertised at >>>$3.44 or whatever the price was.. I'd buy a bucket load. This is as >>>low as aftermarket biger tank in, and is actually likely to be a >>>surplus issue and not nessicarly a mistake. Ml per ML $3.44 for two >>> >>> >>is fair. >> >> > >I was on Staples site this morning out of curiosity to see if they had >corrected things.. I've only been on the site more than usual lately >when we began to talk about printers and inks. Usually I just go on >their site once in a while. I was on it more when I was buying a camera, >though the stores often had sales on cameras which were not on the >website. The website only gives a general idea ofprices or sometimes has >clearances that stores don't have, but you get much better idea of >current prices by gong to the store. >This morning they listed Staples compatibles for the ip1500 but no sign >of the $3.44 for two that was there yesterday, but there were Staples >compatibles listed for the ip1500, but this afternoon, there was no >Staples compatibles listed. Only Canons. Maybe they got sold out of >Staples compatibles for the ip1500, as they had a big sale last week on >all Staples compatibles - $5.00 off any carts, which wasn't that great >with $30.00 carts, but was good for $7.00 carts like the ip1500's. >But whoever is supposed to be updating the site regarding inks is not >doing a good job and getting things mixed up. Last night they had the >4000 printer listed, today its not on the list of printers, and in the >ink area for the 4000, they have a BCI-e3BK listed for 4000. I don't >think >that cart is for the 4000, is it? There are other mistakes, mostly in >the inks category. I think they are doing big changes on the price of >Staples cartridges. I am wondering if they are phasing out some of them. >The ip1500 ones have been there at same prices as stores for the past >year. I should apply for the job of fixing the ink prices on their >site, and could do it a lot better. > > > >>>>As with soda, often I can buy a 2 liter for 99cents, or a 600mloz >>>> >>>> >for > > >>>>$1.25, or even a 1l for $1.50. Or I can not buy soda at all and >>>> >>>> >brew > > >>>>coffee. Buying soda is too nutty. >>>> >>>> >>>You don't like soda? You sure know detailed prices of a lot of >>> >>> >things. > > >>It's not that I don't like soda. I very much enjoyed Manzana, a >>Mexican apple soda. I hate the fact that you've got this product, >> >> >that > > >>costs a fair but, while having a MSRP and a regular price, never is >>it's regular price... with notable exceptions being smaller. >> >> > >Where do you buy Manzana? When you say you hate the fact that you've got >this product, do you mean you buy it in BC? I've never heard of it. I >don't think they have it where I'm located. I never drink pop, too >fattening. though I have a weakness for ice cream and chocolate which >compensates, but I don't have them regularly. I ration myself :) > > > >>>>Well, I shouldn't judge an entire Country based on one website, >>>> >>>> >but > > >>>>it's common complaint that I have when shopping in Canada... and >>>> >>>> >was a > > >>>>huge complaint when Future Shop existed in the states. Things >>>> >>>> >have > > >>>>prices, they go up and down. This is perfectly normal and nothing >>>> >>>> >to > > >>>>be ashamed of, but what drives me nuts is no real regular price, >>>> >>>> >or > > >>>not >>> >>> >>>>knowing it. When they finally left they had a final closeout sale >>>> >>>> >>>with >>> >>> >>>>50% off everything, but as it turns out the regular price was >>>> >>>> >higher > > >>>>than the everyday price, which ment everyone was paying more. >>>> >>>> >>>Future Shop here doesn't seem to be like that. I've shopped at the >>> >>> >one > > >>>near me for many years and they have their regular prices and they >>> >>> >have > > >>>their sales and if I am interested in something, I know their >>> >>> >regular > > >>>prices and if its a good sale price or not (same with all the stores >>>here). >>> >>> >>The last time I delt with Future shop had to have been around 1997, >> >> >and > > >>it was the same up north as here... a compelx web of prices everything >>always on sale without some idea as to what the regular price was. >>Everything had a sticker on it in red "sale". But when asked what the >>regular price was, no one knew, or was willing to say. It was always >> >> >a > > >>sale. One pretty much had to depend on catalogs from other stores to >>judge what was a fair price or not. >> >> > >Well, 1997 was a very long time ago. Maybe the Future shop you went to >had its own >rules and regulations. Doesn't sound like the ones I go to. I have two >FS stores very close to where I live and go to one of them quite >frequently most for DVD movies when any come out I want as they usually >have the cheapest prices, and I have bought quite a few items there like >a TV and a freezer and got good prices. At Christmas they have a boxing >day sale, which I never go to. Too crowded. And they have an ad in the >paper what they are selling and the prices may be a little less, but not >worth getting into crowds for. If I asked at the FS here was the >regular price was of something on sale, they tell you right away. The >regular price stays the same unless the product has gone down in price >and staying down in price. There are only regular price and sales price. >Maybe their price rules have changed since you were there. I've never >even heard of Red tag prices. I got their flyer today in my flyer bag, >which all flyers come in to my building and I checked it closely and it >clearly states their regular price and the sale price, by saying >$250.00, and if its on sale, will say in yellow $30.00 or whatever. If >its not on sale, it will just say $250.00 so you know it only has >regular and sale price. That has been their way of advertising for >years, and if you go to their stores you see a DVD player for example, >it will have $30.00 off or whatever, or if it says a white sign, and >doesn't say $30.00 off, its not on sale. > >Of course, when I look for say a washing machine, I get an idea what the >item is worth by looking at flyers, by going to stores, take note of >prices and start to comparison shop to get the best price. For cheaper >items I don't worry about it and probably times I spend more than an >item is worth. But I've been going to FS for many years, and never had a >problem with prices. Maybe in larger cities such as here, prices needs >to be more uniform in order to compete. Also, there is a government >dept. which oversees business practices or the store gets fined if they >don't do things advertise fairly. you would have the same thing in the >States. >You should go back to the FS you went to 9 years ago and see if its the >same with bouncing prices as you call it. > > > >>>It doesn't bother me because I know the prices of anything that I am >>>interested in. Not sure what you mean above - the everyday price IS >>> >>> >the > > >>>same as the regular price >>> >>> >>It wasn't that way before... regular price was some mythical hidden >>number that no one knew about, a price nothing in the store was marked >>at. Every once and a while you caught them saying "55% off" when the >>price last week didn't add up, their explanation was "oh, that was on >>sale then too, it's onsale again this week, every day price is always >>special". >> >> > >They are upfront here in all stores and have to be. Maybe the laws are >stricter about that now. I just know that I've never had a problem >finding out regular prices as the price IS regular, unless it says >$40.00 off or it sells on sale and it also states the regular price as >well as sale price. If I am looking for a particular item, I know the >regular price, so would know if its on sale or not. > > > >>This was the Richmond area... a place noted for full >> >> >toilets built to the origional john crapper specifications. > >toilet? what full toilets? > >I've never been to BC - only Ontario and when I've gone on vacatiion, >its been to Florida, or I have a special fondness for New England >states, particularly New York state and Adirondacks. I love it there but >haven't been there for years. Never been in Vancouver, or western US, >which is like you going to New York state - 3000 miles - its a very long >way in both our huge countries. > > > >>> Now Future shop is owned by Best Buy in Canada >>>and the US, so you can blame them now. >>> >>> >>So who do I blame about Staples :P >> >> > >You blame the US of course. They own all Staples stores in Canada even >though Canadian staff runs them. I like Staples and bought a lot of >stuff there, including a desk, and a camera and computer games here and >there and carts and other stuff. but I do my homework first especially >if its something like a camera. I don't bother with their website. They >don't have many items on their website. You have to go to the store to >see everything that is available. > > > >>>>But needless to say, I'd believe they will sell you those >>>> >>>> >cartridges > > >>>>for what was it, a pair for $3.00. They probally have a surplus >>>> >>>> >they > > >>>>just need to get rid of. >>>> >>>> >>>I don't know about that. I think that is an error or they might be >>>getting rid of Staples brand ip1500 carts because the ip1500 printer >>> >>> >is > > >>>old now and maybe that why Canon carts for the ip1500 are the only >>> >>> >ones > > >>>available online. The Staples stores could be different. They have >>> >>> >tons > > >>>more products than shown on their website. The website has only a >>>fractiion of the products that the store have. Thats why I never >>> >>> >bother > > >>>with the website. Its just a vague guide and thats about all. In the >>> >>> >US, > > >>>where people like to shop online more than here and theres a lot >>> >>> >more > > >>>people, websites have to be up to date and more appealing to the >>> >>> >public. > > >>It probally is them getting rid of their double boxed cartridges. >> >> > >They are not there today. maybe all sold especially if they were really >$3.44. they might not have been that price in the store though. if you >buy on the website you have to pay for delivery unless its over $50.00 >for your purchase. same in the US. > >It's > > >>nutty they want to get rid of them that badly, but it's also nutty for >>me to have the ability to buy a 24pack of diet pepsi for less then the >>price of a single 12 pack, and the very next day two 12 packs are 1/2 >>the price of one 24 pack. >> >> > >Where does that happen? in your area? The 24 pack of bottles of water >where I live is somestimes cheaper or the same price as 12 pack, because >the 24 pack is on sale.Its a matter of volume is often cheaper. > > > >>It really depends on the shop.. I know office depot I can order from >>the website and pickup in the store. Ordering online usually means >> >> >one > > >>of their trucks running by. It was cheaper with web coupons till the >>sales staff figured out how to enter them into their register. Office >>Max they got moody at me when I went in a print off of something in >> >> >the > > >>store for a product that was web only, and asking them to check the >>barcode was too much to ask. Afterall, it didn't say delivery only. >> >> > >sometimes they are sticky about such things. There is no Office depot >near me, though there are some in the city, and no Office Max's. they >are both American companies. > > > >>But I was trying to make this joke about this cultural difference you >>spoke of. The whole idea of running around asking for prices of >> >> >things > I consider to be troublesome. It's worth it once and a while.. >though > > >>tires at Costco are a pretty good deal... off brands though it helps >> >> >to shop around. > >If you know what you want, you have to run around a little to get the >idea of what a fair price is for an item, or how can you know? When I go >to Florida and shop as that is the main shopping I've done in the US, >though I used to go to Buffalo. I love shopping in the US. Haven't been >there for years. They have more variety in many things which is the best >thing,and better prices in some things and its nice to see different >things than here. Its very different and a nice change. >I know if its a good price when I see it for I've usually seen similar >items. It would be good to go to the US right now with our much higher >Canadian dollar than its been for years. >How else can you know? You can't get everything online though you can >get more than we can due to the much larger number of websites which >sell stuff in the US - much larger population makes a big difference. > >Mary > > >
From: measekite on 15 Apr 2006 20:21 CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS. THIS MUST BE A PUT ON. Mary wrote: >"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > >Zak, I was able to reset the ip1500 last night using keystrokes you gave >me from a message you posted on Apr. 11 (see below). I was shocked that >it worked, now that it doesn't matter and I didn't really want it to. I >didn't think it would >work as I had tried the keystrokes you posted on Apr. 4 which were a bit >different because they involved the RESUME button.. > >When browsing through many messages last night, I found one of your >posts and the URL (http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/30101) >at bottom of the >keystroke instructions you gave. I hadn't checked the URL so I went >there >and read some messages on the forum which involved resetting the >ip1000, and saw the same instructions you state below and it had worked >for someone on the forum, but on an ip1000, so I tried it and it must >have reset the counter because the printer does not give that "waste ink >absorber almost full" message and the green light does not keep >blinking, and no orange (Resume) button blinks either. Both green and >Orange blinked before, Green first, then orange then both alternately. > >But I did something wrong when I tried it before. When I did Press and >hold and power button, I let go of it a little in order to put the power >cable back in with my other hand. (2nd method below worked), which is >only slightly different from 1st method (open the door on 1st method). >Quoted below from your message of Apr. 11: > >"> There are the keystroke instructions > > >>Step 1: Manual for Service mode (1st method) >>1. Unplug POWER and USB cables. >>2. Open door, PRESS and HOLD the POWER button. >>3. Connect the POWER cable. >>4. Close door, then release POWER button. >>5. Power ON your printer a usual (It should not blinking anymore) >> >>Step 1: Manual for Service mode (2nd method) >>1. Unplug POWER and USB cables. >>2. PRESS and HOLD the POWER button, >>3. Connect the POWER cable. >>3. Release the the POWER button >>4. Power ON your printer a usual (It should not blinking anymore) >> >>http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/30101 " >> >> > >The one I tried was from your message of April 4th, which I couldn't get >to work, so I didn't try the above steps from your message of Apr. 11 >figuring >it wouldn't work because the keystrokes on your messge on Apr. 4 didn't >work, but might >have if I had held the power button longer. I will never know now. > >This time around the Resume button did not come on at any point. I just >unplugged the USB and power cord, Pressed and held the power button and >*at the same time" which is the key, plugged the power cord back in, > released the power button, and powered it back on and it worked. Took >about 45 >seconds if that. Imagine after all my tries and Tony's help, if I had >gone back to your later >message with the slightly different instructions, it would have worked >but >there were so many suggestions and messages, it got me confused. >Oh well, the ip tool instructions might have also worked with Burt's >suggestion of taking out the print head but that was never tried.. > >Below is what I tried before, but was different from what I did this >time. > >From your message of Apr. 4: > >"There are also the following keystrokes > 1. Turn off the printer. And disconnect the printer cable. >2. Press and hold the POWER button, turn on the printer. >3. The indicator (L.E.D.) should be green. >4. Press and release the RESUME button , the indicator (L.E.D.) should >be orange. >5. Press and release the RESUME button again, the indicator (L.E.D.) >should be green. >6. Release both buttons" > >That was the one I tried, but didn't seem to work, and when it did work >this time, the Resume button never came on at all. > >I was quite shocked last night when it worked and no error messge and >the green light is on and no orange light. Now if the subject ever comes >up from Canon, I will have to say "well, I don't know what happened, but >the message was there before". >Iin any case, though the printer has been reset, the problem >still exists though it might have run without problems for a while >and I might never have needed to get a refurb from Canon. But >too late. I might get the refurb Monday or Tuesday. Maybe not >Monday as Puralator is owned by Canada Post and Canada Post closes on >Easter Monday - no mail either. > >Its too bad I hadn't been able to take out the ink absorbers myself and >fixed >the printer, but I get the impression its not easy to get to the >ink absorbers. I would have preferred to keep myown printer rather than >a refurb one as I really look after my possessions. So hopefully the one >I get will be OK and at least work properly. >I emailed Tony. He spent a lot of time and effort trying to help me in >emails. > >Mary > >*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > >
From: Mary on 15 Apr 2006 23:19 "Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message news:kue0g.59918$F_3.43031(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > "Mary" <nonon(a)nothin.com> wrote in message > news:44415b10$0$14498$6d36acad(a)titian.nntpserver.com... > > "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > Zak, I was able to reset the ip1500 last night using keystrokes you gave > > me from a message you posted on Apr. 11 (see below). I was shocked that > > it worked, now that it doesn't matter and I didn't really want it to. I > > didn't think it would > > work as I had tried the keystrokes you posted on Apr. 4 which were a bit > > different because they involved the RESUME button.. > > > (snip). > > > > Mary > > > Congratulations, Mary! You are now a full fledged printer repair person. And ready to hang out my shingle :) Actually, it was so easy that I didn't expect it to work after struggling with many frustrating attempts.I was pretty surprised.Maybe it was because I wasn't really trying. > What you've described is typical of so many things about computers. > Everything has to be done right, down to the period, comma, space, etc, or > the fix doesn't work. Just the simple act of releasing the power button > before you plugged in the cable didn't permit the reset to work. You are so right about that. So many things about computers have to be very detailed, and if one small thing is missed, it doesn't work. In mhy view part of the instructions were not completely clear and could have used a bit more explanation to make things perfectly clear for slow people like me. After where it said 2. PRESS and HOLD the POWER button, turn on the computer" I would have got it right the first time if for example, it had said 2. PRESS and HOLD the POWER button, and "3.plug the power cord back into the computer while still keeping your finger on the Power button", would have been more detailed and made more sense to me. I don't think its just me either as on the forum on the URL which Zak posted for fixyourcomputer or whatever it was, many people couldnt get the reset quite right and I bet some of it was because of doing what I did and missing a crucial part of the steps. > Getting > the refurb will undoubtedly be OK, especially because Staples will extend > the warranty to the replacement unit. Your original one would have > continued to work just fine as the "ink waste tank full" warning doesn't > mean that you had a gallon of liquid in the base of your printer! Nothing > to fix, really, as people who have reset their printers once and not > replaced the pad haven't had ink slosh out of the printer. But the point still is, its unpredictable whether the waste ink would get full or not. >If could see the > pad, you would probably just see some dried ink residue - more concentrated > at the ends and mostly under the place where the head parks itself and the > head cleaning is done. That could be true, but the fact that it has this message makes it more likely that it could end up saying the absorber is full. Even though the printer is reset and the error message may not appear any more, the problem is still there and how long it will last before it could be disabled is unpredictable. It may last 1 day and may last 2 years. But if I had been able to reset it before arranging for the refurb one, I might have just kept my own printer as I know everything works and the refurb one, I don't know. But anyway, I will get the refurb one and hope it works for a while. By the way, is it difficult to get at waste absorber pads? I just see one big silver screw at the left side when I open the printer cover. Maybe if I could have unscrewed that, the long plastic part with the waste pads under it, might have come off fairly easy and I could have cleaned the pads myself. I am not going to do that now because no point, but just wondered if there is just one screw to loosen to get into the pads, or is it more complicated than that? Mary
From: Mary on 15 Apr 2006 23:25 "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1145141628.606251.141250(a)e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > Burt wrote: > > "Mary" <nonon(a)nothin.com> wrote in message > > news:44415b10$0$14498$6d36acad(a)titian.nntpserver.com... > > > "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > > > Zak, I was able to reset the ip1500 last night using keystrokes you gave > > > me from a message you posted on Apr. 11 (see below). I was shocked that > > > it worked, now that it doesn't matter and I didn't really want it to. I > > > didn't think it would > > > work as I had tried the keystrokes you posted on Apr. 4 which were a bit > > > different because they involved the RESUME button.. > But yes, congrats. That's the trouble with troubleshooting, you must > begin with having no clue and try things in an orderly fashion and > eventually you get it. Yes,its like elimination and trial and error and now that I got it, its too late. Well not too late, but I might have kept my own printer if I had gotten it reset before, but if I get the refurb one, at least it should have no waste ink problems at all and mine obvious does. Exactly how bad it is, no way to know, but the problem is there. >Now youll get a new printer which might by any > one of three reset procedures which you don't have to worry about for > many moons. At least I will know if this ever happens again, but I hope it doesn't as I wouldn't say its exactly a good sign. Resetting is fine, but you don't know when or if the problem will get worse. >And you can feel no shame in accepting a replacement as > they don't actually tell the users how to peform any service what so > ever, and average joe user without the magic sequence of pokes would be > printerless without shelling out the bucks for service which tends to > cost about the same as a cheepo printer. You lost me here!. I don't get the connection with my getting a refurb printer and them not telling users hwo to perform any service? why would I need to know about service for a refurb printer? Mary
From: Mary on 15 Apr 2006 23:29
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > But yes, congrats. That's the trouble with troubleshooting, you must > begin with having no clue and try things in an orderly fashion and > eventually you get it. Now youll get a new printer which might by any > one of three reset procedures which you don't have to worry about for > many moons. It was due to your messages and the link you gave me which I read last night that led me to the reset. I was working my way back on messages when I saw your earlier messages with the keystroke steps that gave me the information to try the reset. I didn't think it would work and thats why I tried it . :) So thanks (I think) even just for the fact that I finally figured it out. Mary |