From: Mary on
Sorry about the duplicate messages. I am having problems with my news
server today and last night with duplicate messages. I use two news
servers. One I use most of the time but occasionally it has problems,
then I use the backup, but today and last night the back up one has
sent a few messages out a few times. Well, its the weekend and a
holiday - the cats away :)

Mary

"Mary" <nonon(a)nothin.com> wrote in message
news:4440184a$0$14420$6d36acad(a)titian.nntpserver.com...
> "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1145052524.274015.94690(a)z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > The 4000 - colors are 16 ML per color and small black and 29 ML
for
> > > large black.
> >
> > Canon is 25ml and 14ml. Your Officemax branded tanks are 29ml and
> > 16ml. These are atypical sizes. You can expect an extra 80 pages
out
> > of the officemax big black tank.
>
> I think you are quoting me above though you didn't say and my
> memory is shot :)
> I was quoting Staples carts. Isn't the volume for Canon carts for the
> 4000 the same.?
> On the closeup of the Canon 4000 boxes on Staples site, I cant see how
> many mls
> are in the carts.
> The 4000 Staples carts are 16 ml for each color and small black. The
> large black is 29 ml. We don't have any Officemax stores.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
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From: zakezuke on

Mary wrote:

> > > The 4000 - colors are 16 ML per color and small black and 29 ML for
> > > large black.
> >
> > Canon is 25ml and 14ml. Your Officemax branded tanks are 29ml and
> > 16ml. These are atypical sizes. You can expect an extra 80 pages out
> > of the officemax big black tank.
>
> I think you are quoting me above though you didn't say and my
> memory is shot :)
> I was quoting Staples carts. Isn't the volume for Canon carts for the
> 4000 the same.?

My bad, Staples and not office max. The staples brand is larger. Not
by much, but it is larger. What's odd is in the states they advertise
the yields as being within +/- 5% when it's clearly + 13% in volume,
not that i'm complaining or anything. Their independent testing lab
must be off. I've never actually used their ink, so I can't say
anything about my yields.

From: Mary on
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> >
http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/responsible_brand_bci-21_24_cartrid...
> >
> > I checked that one but I couldn't find any shipping costs. That has
to
> > be included.
>
> Add to cart, checkout. Canada looks like $14.93 airmail, Ecconomy
> $11.95, whether you order 1 bci-24bk or 8 bci-24bks. You'd have to
> order at least 8 blacks to save a few bucks over staples... and even
> then Ecconomy shipping is the only way you can order more without
> additional shipping charges, and even then it's only $11.95 to 15
> bci-24bks. And d'oh, we're dealing with US funds on weink arn't we.
>
> 15 blacks will run you Canadian shipped 108.45
> 15 blacks at staples will run you about $105 + tax.

The inksupply site that Burt mentioned charged a lot less for shipping.
I forget if it was airmail or regular mail. For letters everything is
sent my air mail, but for small packets it is a choice of airmail which
is 4-6 days or surface mail which is approx. 2 weeks or sometimes a
little more. When I send any packages to the US I usually send airmail.
Its not much more than within Canada, but from here to overseas is a lot
different -its about twice the cost as to the States.

> You "may" save a few bucks if you order enough.... but you'd have to
> order so many to even come close to saving a few bucks.

Yes, thats no good.

> I have no experence with Responcible Ink (tm), nor does their website
> list any Canadian dealers.

Is that someone you use? I haven't had a chance yet to check Canadian
online ink sites. They will probably be a lot cheaper than me ordering
from the US and right now, I don't need to order anything.I have a
supply to keep me going for a while for the ip1500. I got those small
black Staples tanks for $2.00 last week when onsale, regular is $7.04,
and one color. The ip1500 will print black only if you run out of color.

> > Yes, the 4200 might eventually get compatibles. The Ip1500 carts are
> > quite cheap at Staples, though but of course they are thimbles as
you
> > all say :)
>
> Well.. it's not "that" horrible. Assuming a ratio of 3.8 to 1, I
would
> aprixmate 3.94 bci-3e or pgi-5 (ip 4000 and ip4200) tanks to 15 tanks
> of Mr. Thimble black. 3.4 tanks of the 29ml staples brand.
> 15 canon thimble blacks today $141.90 - $9.46 each
> 15 thimble blacks staples today $106.35 - $7.09 each
>
> 3.4 29ml staple blacks today $43.248 - $12.72 each
> 3.94 Canon pgi-5 tanks $97.31 - $24.96 each (the name brand for the
> ip4200)
> All prices canadian, no tax added.

Where did you get the 3.4 figure and the 3.94 figure above? are you
talking about the 4000?
The 4200 is not even listed on the STaples Canada site in the inks area.
Just the 4000.

> EEK the prices were better last week.

Somebody must be messing with changes on the website where the inks are
listed becuase the prices have changed a few times in the last few days
in the inks area..
The ip1500 now has only Canon inks listed and no Staples inks and
they've always had Staples inks, so maybe they are going to discontinue
Staples brand any more for the ip1500.
Another big increase was the 4000 was $8.46 last week for color tanks
and the small black and its been that way for a while, but now they are
listed at $13.46 each but the two pack large black one went down in
price, but in the description of models that can use it, it doesn't
mention the
ip400. So I don't know what is going on there.

Mary



From: Mary on
This is the other news server I used, and I sure hope it doesn't post
any duplicates like the other one which I won't use for now. Its not me
honest - as you can see most times the duplicate messages are all posted
with the same time on them.

"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > But since my printer is going back to Canon after I get the refurb
one,
> > maybe a Canon tech will want to confirm what I said is true - (that
I
> > get an error message about the ink absorbers being almost full), and
> > wonder why I wanted a refurb if mine seems ok (if the reset worked
of
> > course) - they wouldn't know it was reset but wouldn't see the error
> > message that is supposed to be there..
>
> I don't think they honestly care, unless you are making a habbit of
it.

Well, maybe, but they still might check to see if they get that error
message just to check it out to confirm whether they are able to fix it
or throw it out. But maybe they really don't care, but I don't know if
I want to try to reset it, in case it works :)

> I'm sure they get some printers back which don't have any issues.

I can't see that anyone would send back a printer that works OK unless
they have no idea how a printer works.When you send a printer back as
defective, Canon will only send you the same model printer, so not like
you will get a better printer back.

> Odds are this program of just send a referb costs them less in the
long
> run than dealing with a service center, who often charge a minium of
> 1.5 to 2hrs of labor for each problem no matter how simple.

The tech at Canon said Canon only fixes printers which don't have much
wrong with them, unless its a printer more than $200.00 purchase price
as they try to repair them or have to replace them. If under $200.00, I
think they fix them only if its feasible and fairly easy to fix, but
with a problem like mine, they will probably not bother, as its not
worth it to dig into the inner workings, which
takes time.

> In fact, they probally depend on printers comming back with basicly
> little wrong with them just so they can have misc parts for older
> models in stock rather than continuing to make parts.

According to the tech. Canon only repair printers with little wrong with
them and keep them for refurb models to send to people like me.

>In a way, you
> are doing them a favor in the fact that they can replace the diaper,
> pop in a new head, give it a good lube job, and honor someone else's
> warranty who likely got a full diaper without having to order parts
> from Canon Japan.

I would only be doing them a favor if they are short of refurbished
ip1500's and they repair mine which I doubt they will do unless the
diaper is fairly easy to fix, and I got the impression from the tech at
Canon, that its not one of the easier things to fix, labor-wise, and
they probably don't fix it.

> Besides, even if people are being bozos... odds are those bozos are
> paying top dollar for their ink, something that more than makes up for
> sending out a referb.

Thats probably true but maybe Canon don't see it that way.

Mary

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From: zakezuke on

Mary wrote:
> Where did you get the 3.4 figure and the 3.94 figure above? are you
> talking about the 4000?
> The 4200 is not even listed on the STaples Canada site in the inks area.
> Just the 4000.


I think I'll give up evaluating the cost peformance of staples
compatables.

Just when I take the time to calculate 7 buck tanks I notice that you
can buy a twinpack for $3.44.

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=520491&affixedcode=WW
tem Number 520491
I mean this with the upmost respect, but Canadian Staples are a bunch
of loonies!

$1.72 a tank would be equal to a $4.64 ip4200/ip4000 tank. While I
believe you can get $5.00 tanks for the ip4000... sometimes less...
Staples wants at least 10 for theirs. I don't typicaly see ip1500
tanks for basicly a penny a page, and a canadian penny at that.

Buy one for $7 or buy two for $3.44.

I'm glad I don't live in canada... No disrespect but i'd I would go
bonkers quickly.