From: Mary on
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message

Zak, I was able to reset the ip1500 last night using keystrokes you gave
me from a message you posted on Apr. 11 (see below). I was shocked that
it worked, now that it doesn't matter and I didn't really want it to. I
didn't think it would
work as I had tried the keystrokes you posted on Apr. 4 which were a bit
different because they involved the RESUME button..

When browsing through many messages last night, I found one of your
posts and the URL (http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/30101)
at bottom of the
keystroke instructions you gave. I hadn't checked the URL so I went
there
and read some messages on the forum which involved resetting the
ip1000, and saw the same instructions you state below and it had worked
for someone on the forum, but on an ip1000, so I tried it and it must
have reset the counter because the printer does not give that "waste ink
absorber almost full" message and the green light does not keep
blinking, and no orange (Resume) button blinks either. Both green and
Orange blinked before, Green first, then orange then both alternately.

But I did something wrong when I tried it before. When I did Press and
hold and power button, I let go of it a little in order to put the power
cable back in with my other hand. (2nd method below worked), which is
only slightly different from 1st method (open the door on 1st method).
Quoted below from your message of Apr. 11:

"> There are the keystroke instructions
>
> Step 1: Manual for Service mode (1st method)
> 1. Unplug POWER and USB cables.
> 2. Open door, PRESS and HOLD the POWER button.
> 3. Connect the POWER cable.
> 4. Close door, then release POWER button.
> 5. Power ON your printer a usual (It should not blinking anymore)
>
> Step 1: Manual for Service mode (2nd method)
> 1. Unplug POWER and USB cables.
> 2. PRESS and HOLD the POWER button,
> 3. Connect the POWER cable.
> 3. Release the the POWER button
> 4. Power ON your printer a usual (It should not blinking anymore)
>
> http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/inkjet/30101 "

The one I tried was from your message of April 4th, which I couldn't get
to work, so I didn't try the above steps from your message of Apr. 11
figuring
it wouldn't work because the keystrokes on your messge on Apr. 4 didn't
work, but might
have if I had held the power button longer. I will never know now.

This time around the Resume button did not come on at any point. I just
unplugged the USB and power cord, Pressed and held the power button and
*at the same time" which is the key, plugged the power cord back in,
released the power button, and powered it back on and it worked. Took
about 45
seconds if that. Imagine after all my tries and Tony's help, if I had
gone back to your later
message with the slightly different instructions, it would have worked
but
there were so many suggestions and messages, it got me confused.
Oh well, the ip tool instructions might have also worked with Burt's
suggestion of taking out the print head but that was never tried..

Below is what I tried before, but was different from what I did this
time.

From your message of Apr. 4:

"There are also the following keystrokes
1. Turn off the printer. And disconnect the printer cable.
2. Press and hold the POWER button, turn on the printer.
3. The indicator (L.E.D.) should be green.
4. Press and release the RESUME button , the indicator (L.E.D.) should
be orange.
5. Press and release the RESUME button again, the indicator (L.E.D.)
should be green.
6. Release both buttons"

That was the one I tried, but didn't seem to work, and when it did work
this time, the Resume button never came on at all.

I was quite shocked last night when it worked and no error messge and
the green light is on and no orange light. Now if the subject ever comes
up from Canon, I will have to say "well, I don't know what happened, but
the message was there before".
Iin any case, though the printer has been reset, the problem
still exists though it might have run without problems for a while
and I might never have needed to get a refurb from Canon. But
too late. I might get the refurb Monday or Tuesday. Maybe not
Monday as Puralator is owned by Canada Post and Canada Post closes on
Easter Monday - no mail either.

Its too bad I hadn't been able to take out the ink absorbers myself and
fixed
the printer, but I get the impression its not easy to get to the
ink absorbers. I would have preferred to keep myown printer rather than
a refurb one as I really look after my possessions. So hopefully the one
I get will be OK and at least work properly.
I emailed Tony. He spent a lot of time and effort trying to help me in
emails.

Mary

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From: Burt on

"Mary" <nonon(a)nothin.com> wrote in message
news:44415b10$0$14498$6d36acad(a)titian.nntpserver.com...
> "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Zak, I was able to reset the ip1500 last night using keystrokes you gave
> me from a message you posted on Apr. 11 (see below). I was shocked that
> it worked, now that it doesn't matter and I didn't really want it to. I
> didn't think it would
> work as I had tried the keystrokes you posted on Apr. 4 which were a bit
> different because they involved the RESUME button..
>
(snip).
>
> Mary
>
Congratulations, Mary! You are now a full fledged printer repair person.
What you've described is typical of so many things about computers.
Everything has to be done right, down to the period, comma, space, etc, or
the fix doesn't work. Just the simple act of releasing the power button
before you plugged in the cable didn't permit the reset to work. Getting
the refurb will undoubtedly be OK, especially because Staples will extend
the warranty to the replacement unit. Your original one would have
continued to work just fine as the "ink waste tank full" warning doesn't
mean that you had a gallon of liquid in the base of your printer! Nothing
to fix, really, as people who have reset their printers once and not
replaced the pad haven't had ink slosh out of the printer. If could see the
pad, you would probably just see some dried ink residue - more concentrated
at the ends and mostly under the place where the head parks itself and the
head cleaning is done.


From: Mary on
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145081409.595096.202140(a)i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mary wrote:
> > I am presuming you are talking about soda (we call it pop) and milk
at
> > stores in your area?.
> > Milk here is different prices in different supermarkets, but its
always
> > the same price at the same store and I've never seen 2 1/2 gallons
> > cheaper than a full gallon. We use litres but same idea.
> > So I've never run into the problem you mention above and believe me
I
> > shop a lot - too much sometimes and I pay attention to prices of
foods
> > and everything else.
>
> Yes, pop, east cost N. America tends to prefer pop, west cost N.
> America tends to prefer soda. There was a map at one point showing
> what cities used soda, pop, or soda-pop.

A map about something like that? Only in America :)

> > It was an attempt at humor, and my observation of bouncing prices is
> > typical. I would buy some cartridges that are clearly advertised at
> > $3.44 or whatever the price was.. I'd buy a bucket load. This is as
> > low as aftermarket biger tank in, and is actually likely to be a
> > surplus issue and not nessicarly a mistake. Ml per ML $3.44 for two
> is fair.

I was on Staples site this morning out of curiosity to see if they had
corrected things.. I've only been on the site more than usual lately
when we began to talk about printers and inks. Usually I just go on
their site once in a while. I was on it more when I was buying a camera,
though the stores often had sales on cameras which were not on the
website. The website only gives a general idea ofprices or sometimes has
clearances that stores don't have, but you get much better idea of
current prices by gong to the store.
This morning they listed Staples compatibles for the ip1500 but no sign
of the $3.44 for two that was there yesterday, but there were Staples
compatibles listed for the ip1500, but this afternoon, there was no
Staples compatibles listed. Only Canons. Maybe they got sold out of
Staples compatibles for the ip1500, as they had a big sale last week on
all Staples compatibles - $5.00 off any carts, which wasn't that great
with $30.00 carts, but was good for $7.00 carts like the ip1500's.
But whoever is supposed to be updating the site regarding inks is not
doing a good job and getting things mixed up. Last night they had the
4000 printer listed, today its not on the list of printers, and in the
ink area for the 4000, they have a BCI-e3BK listed for 4000. I don't
think
that cart is for the 4000, is it? There are other mistakes, mostly in
the inks category. I think they are doing big changes on the price of
Staples cartridges. I am wondering if they are phasing out some of them.
The ip1500 ones have been there at same prices as stores for the past
year. I should apply for the job of fixing the ink prices on their
site, and could do it a lot better.

> > > As with soda, often I can buy a 2 liter for 99cents, or a 600mloz
for
> > > $1.25, or even a 1l for $1.50. Or I can not buy soda at all and
brew
> > > coffee. Buying soda is too nutty.
> >
> > You don't like soda? You sure know detailed prices of a lot of
things.
>
> It's not that I don't like soda. I very much enjoyed Manzana, a
> Mexican apple soda. I hate the fact that you've got this product,
that
> costs a fair but, while having a MSRP and a regular price, never is
> it's regular price... with notable exceptions being smaller.

Where do you buy Manzana? When you say you hate the fact that you've got
this product, do you mean you buy it in BC? I've never heard of it. I
don't think they have it where I'm located. I never drink pop, too
fattening. though I have a weakness for ice cream and chocolate which
compensates, but I don't have them regularly. I ration myself :)

> > > Well, I shouldn't judge an entire Country based on one website,
but
> > > it's common complaint that I have when shopping in Canada... and
was a
> > > huge complaint when Future Shop existed in the states. Things
have
> > > prices, they go up and down. This is perfectly normal and nothing
to
> > > be ashamed of, but what drives me nuts is no real regular price,
or
> > not
> > > knowing it. When they finally left they had a final closeout sale
> > with
> > > 50% off everything, but as it turns out the regular price was
higher
> > > than the everyday price, which ment everyone was paying more.
> >
> > Future Shop here doesn't seem to be like that. I've shopped at the
one
> > near me for many years and they have their regular prices and they
have
> > their sales and if I am interested in something, I know their
regular
> > prices and if its a good sale price or not (same with all the stores
> > here).
>
> The last time I delt with Future shop had to have been around 1997,
and
> it was the same up north as here... a compelx web of prices everything
> always on sale without some idea as to what the regular price was.
> Everything had a sticker on it in red "sale". But when asked what the
> regular price was, no one knew, or was willing to say. It was always
a
> sale. One pretty much had to depend on catalogs from other stores to
> judge what was a fair price or not.

Well, 1997 was a very long time ago. Maybe the Future shop you went to
had its own
rules and regulations. Doesn't sound like the ones I go to. I have two
FS stores very close to where I live and go to one of them quite
frequently most for DVD movies when any come out I want as they usually
have the cheapest prices, and I have bought quite a few items there like
a TV and a freezer and got good prices. At Christmas they have a boxing
day sale, which I never go to. Too crowded. And they have an ad in the
paper what they are selling and the prices may be a little less, but not
worth getting into crowds for. If I asked at the FS here was the
regular price was of something on sale, they tell you right away. The
regular price stays the same unless the product has gone down in price
and staying down in price. There are only regular price and sales price.
Maybe their price rules have changed since you were there. I've never
even heard of Red tag prices. I got their flyer today in my flyer bag,
which all flyers come in to my building and I checked it closely and it
clearly states their regular price and the sale price, by saying
$250.00, and if its on sale, will say in yellow $30.00 or whatever. If
its not on sale, it will just say $250.00 so you know it only has
regular and sale price. That has been their way of advertising for
years, and if you go to their stores you see a DVD player for example,
it will have $30.00 off or whatever, or if it says a white sign, and
doesn't say $30.00 off, its not on sale.

Of course, when I look for say a washing machine, I get an idea what the
item is worth by looking at flyers, by going to stores, take note of
prices and start to comparison shop to get the best price. For cheaper
items I don't worry about it and probably times I spend more than an
item is worth. But I've been going to FS for many years, and never had a
problem with prices. Maybe in larger cities such as here, prices needs
to be more uniform in order to compete. Also, there is a government
dept. which oversees business practices or the store gets fined if they
don't do things advertise fairly. you would have the same thing in the
States.
You should go back to the FS you went to 9 years ago and see if its the
same with bouncing prices as you call it.

> > It doesn't bother me because I know the prices of anything that I am
> > interested in. Not sure what you mean above - the everyday price IS
the
> > same as the regular price
>
> It wasn't that way before... regular price was some mythical hidden
> number that no one knew about, a price nothing in the store was marked
> at. Every once and a while you caught them saying "55% off" when the
> price last week didn't add up, their explanation was "oh, that was on
> sale then too, it's onsale again this week, every day price is always
> special".

They are upfront here in all stores and have to be. Maybe the laws are
stricter about that now. I just know that I've never had a problem
finding out regular prices as the price IS regular, unless it says
$40.00 off or it sells on sale and it also states the regular price as
well as sale price. If I am looking for a particular item, I know the
regular price, so would know if its on sale or not.

>This was the Richmond area... a place noted for full
toilets built to the origional john crapper specifications.

toilet? what full toilets?

I've never been to BC - only Ontario and when I've gone on vacatiion,
its been to Florida, or I have a special fondness for New England
states, particularly New York state and Adirondacks. I love it there but
haven't been there for years. Never been in Vancouver, or western US,
which is like you going to New York state - 3000 miles - its a very long
way in both our huge countries.

> > Now Future shop is owned by Best Buy in Canada
> > and the US, so you can blame them now.
>
> So who do I blame about Staples :P

You blame the US of course. They own all Staples stores in Canada even
though Canadian staff runs them. I like Staples and bought a lot of
stuff there, including a desk, and a camera and computer games here and
there and carts and other stuff. but I do my homework first especially
if its something like a camera. I don't bother with their website. They
don't have many items on their website. You have to go to the store to
see everything that is available.

> > > But needless to say, I'd believe they will sell you those
cartridges
> > > for what was it, a pair for $3.00. They probally have a surplus
they
> > > just need to get rid of.
> >
> > I don't know about that. I think that is an error or they might be
> > getting rid of Staples brand ip1500 carts because the ip1500 printer
is
> > old now and maybe that why Canon carts for the ip1500 are the only
ones
> > available online. The Staples stores could be different. They have
tons
> > more products than shown on their website. The website has only a
> > fractiion of the products that the store have. Thats why I never
bother
> > with the website. Its just a vague guide and thats about all. In the
US,
> > where people like to shop online more than here and theres a lot
more
> > people, websites have to be up to date and more appealing to the
public.
>
> It probally is them getting rid of their double boxed cartridges.

They are not there today. maybe all sold especially if they were really
$3.44. they might not have been that price in the store though. if you
buy on the website you have to pay for delivery unless its over $50.00
for your purchase. same in the US.

It's
> nutty they want to get rid of them that badly, but it's also nutty for
> me to have the ability to buy a 24pack of diet pepsi for less then the
> price of a single 12 pack, and the very next day two 12 packs are 1/2
> the price of one 24 pack.

Where does that happen? in your area? The 24 pack of bottles of water
where I live is somestimes cheaper or the same price as 12 pack, because
the 24 pack is on sale.Its a matter of volume is often cheaper.

> It really depends on the shop.. I know office depot I can order from
> the website and pickup in the store. Ordering online usually means
one
> of their trucks running by. It was cheaper with web coupons till the
> sales staff figured out how to enter them into their register. Office
> Max they got moody at me when I went in a print off of something in
the
> store for a product that was web only, and asking them to check the
> barcode was too much to ask. Afterall, it didn't say delivery only.

sometimes they are sticky about such things. There is no Office depot
near me, though there are some in the city, and no Office Max's. they
are both American companies.

> But I was trying to make this joke about this cultural difference you
> spoke of. The whole idea of running around asking for prices of
things > I consider to be troublesome. It's worth it once and a while..
though
> tires at Costco are a pretty good deal... off brands though it helps
to shop around.

If you know what you want, you have to run around a little to get the
idea of what a fair price is for an item, or how can you know? When I go
to Florida and shop as that is the main shopping I've done in the US,
though I used to go to Buffalo. I love shopping in the US. Haven't been
there for years. They have more variety in many things which is the best
thing,and better prices in some things and its nice to see different
things than here. Its very different and a nice change.
I know if its a good price when I see it for I've usually seen similar
items. It would be good to go to the US right now with our much higher
Canadian dollar than its been for years.
How else can you know? You can't get everything online though you can
get more than we can due to the much larger number of websites which
sell stuff in the US - much larger population makes a big difference.

Mary

From: zakezuke on

Burt wrote:
> "Mary" <nonon(a)nothin.com> wrote in message
> news:44415b10$0$14498$6d36acad(a)titian.nntpserver.com...
> > "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > Zak, I was able to reset the ip1500 last night using keystrokes you gave
> > me from a message you posted on Apr. 11 (see below). I was shocked that
> > it worked, now that it doesn't matter and I didn't really want it to. I
> > didn't think it would
> > work as I had tried the keystrokes you posted on Apr. 4 which were a bit
> > different because they involved the RESUME button..
> >
> (snip).
> >
> > Mary
> >
> Congratulations, Mary! You are now a full fledged printer repair person.
> What you've described is typical of so many things about computers.
> Everything has to be done right, down to the period, comma, space, etc, or
> the fix doesn't work. Just the simple act of releasing the power button
> before you plugged in the cable didn't permit the reset to work. Getting
> the refurb will undoubtedly be OK, especially because Staples will extend
> the warranty to the replacement unit.

Agreed. Just today I was having motherboard issues... the manual
clearly states for an AMD 1700+ cpu switch to the right, and for the
past year it's been switched to the right, but recently it was only
comming up as 1111mhz rather what 1400 which what an 1700+xp runs at.
Removing the switch all together resolves the issue, though in the past
switch right did the trick.

Even more recently on my mail server I decided to add some users before
the wizard came by and assign passwords to respective accounts. The
result is it not seeing the network at all.

And even worse, the website for the system neglected to use slashes but
put backslashes everywhere, showing up in the address as being %5.

But yes, congrats. That's the trouble with troubleshooting, you must
begin with having no clue and try things in an orderly fashion and
eventually you get it. Now youll get a new printer which might by any
one of three reset procedures which you don't have to worry about for
many moons. And you can feel no shame in accepting a replacement as
they don't actually tell the users how to peform any service what so
ever, and average joe user without the magic sequence of pokes would be
printerless without shelling out the bucks for service which tends to
cost about the same as a cheepo printer.

From: zakezuke on

Mary wrote:
> "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1145081409.595096.202140(a)i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Mary wrote:
> > > I am presuming you are talking about soda (we call it pop) and milk
> at
> > > stores in your area?.
> > > Milk here is different prices in different supermarkets, but its
> always
> > > the same price at the same store and I've never seen 2 1/2 gallons
> > > cheaper than a full gallon. We use litres but same idea.
> > > So I've never run into the problem you mention above and believe me
> I
> > > shop a lot - too much sometimes and I pay attention to prices of
> foods
> > > and everything else.
> >
> > Yes, pop, east cost N. America tends to prefer pop, west cost N.
> > America tends to prefer soda. There was a map at one point showing
> > what cities used soda, pop, or soda-pop.
>
> A map about something like that? Only in America :)

I can't find the really good one I saw that included Canada
http://www.popvssoda.com/

I got into the soda habbit when I was in West Virgina and asked the
clerk where is your pop, and he said he's dead.







>
> > > It was an attempt at humor, and my observation of bouncing prices is
> > > typical. I would buy some cartridges that are clearly advertised at
> > > $3.44 or whatever the price was.. I'd buy a bucket load. This is as
> > > low as aftermarket biger tank in, and is actually likely to be a
> > > surplus issue and not nessicarly a mistake. Ml per ML $3.44 for two
> > is fair.
>
> I was on Staples site this morning out of curiosity to see if they had
> corrected things.. I've only been on the site more than usual lately
> when we began to talk about printers and inks. Usually I just go on
> their site once in a while. I was on it more when I was buying a camera,
> though the stores often had sales on cameras which were not on the
> website. The website only gives a general idea ofprices or sometimes has
> clearances that stores don't have, but you get much better idea of
> current prices by gong to the store.
> This morning they listed Staples compatibles for the ip1500 but no sign
> of the $3.44 for two that was there yesterday, but there were Staples
> compatibles listed for the ip1500, but this afternoon, there was no
> Staples compatibles listed. Only Canons.

Search for bci-24bk, or Sic-24. Still there. Item # 520491

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=520491&affixedcode=WW

In fact the color is listed as $15.56 for a two pack, rather than
$20.96 for a one pack.
Item # 512750 and marked with a special graphic saying "hot buy"

I think you are missing a bet here... as buying a pair is far less than
buying one of each.

> . I am wondering if they are phasing out some of them.

Could be.


> Where do you buy Manzana?
Mexico.

> When you say you hate the fact that you've got
> this product, do you mean you buy it in BC?

No, I mean there is this product.


> Well, 1997 was a very long time ago. Maybe the Future shop you went to
> had its own
> rules and regulations.

Or perhaps at the time this was their policy... it wasn't one store but
rather the offical newspaper circular.


>If I asked at the FS here was the
> regular price was of something on sale, they tell you right away.

That's cool, I like that.

> The
> regular price stays the same unless the product has gone down in price
> and staying down in price. There are only regular price and sales price.

Then you have the oddness of things that are never regular price.


> Maybe their price rules have changed since you were there. I've never
> even heard of Red tag prices. I got their flyer today in my flyer bag,
> which all flyers come in to my building and I checked it closely and it
> clearly states their regular price and the sale price, by saying
> $250.00, and if its on sale, will say in yellow $30.00 or whatever.

Delightful.... I don't know why they were booted out of the States, it
was very long ago, but issues with fraud if I remember correctly. None
of this regular price sale price... just everyday is a sale, everything
maked "sale", no regular prices discosed, and percents in the circular
that never added up.


> They are upfront here in all stores and have to be. Maybe the laws are
> stricter about that now. I just know that I've never had a problem
> finding out regular prices as the price IS regular, unless it says
> $40.00 off or it sells on sale and it also states the regular price as
> well as sale price. If I am looking for a particular item, I know the
> regular price, so would know if its on sale or not.
>
> >This was the Richmond area... a place noted for full
> toilets built to the origional john crapper specifications.
>
> toilet? what full toilets?

Full sized toilets, rather than ecconoflush models. John Crapper
worked out the exact amount of water required to flush in a sanitary
fashion, and along comes goverment who says it's now required to sell
only water efficent models, which almost always results in double
flushing. One of the few places one can get a full toilet is Richmond
BC which happens to be below sea level.


> I've never been to BC - only Ontario and when I've gone on vacatiion,
> its been to Florida, or I have a special fondness for New England
> states, particularly New York state and Adirondacks. I love it there but
> haven't been there for years. Never been in Vancouver, or western US,
> which is like you going to New York state - 3000 miles - its a very long
> way in both our huge countries.

I must admit i've only been as far north as New Jersey on the east
cost. It is a long drive, days infact. But I imagine CA1 is a nice
enough road, though I've only been on it for about 500km or so.


> They are not there today. maybe all sold especially if they were really
> $3.44. they might not have been that price in the store though. if you
> buy on the website you have to pay for delivery unless its over $50.00
> for your purchase. same in the US.

I see them, and the color one too with a bold friendly hot deal image
next to it.



> Where does that happen? in your area? The 24 pack of bottles of water
> where I live is somestimes cheaper or the same price as 12 pack, because
> the 24 pack is on sale.Its a matter of volume is often cheaper.

A store called Fred Meyers, a charming place that has a decent natural
food section, and on Utah an entire isle of pork and beans... which
scares me. But no, I don't mean cheaper per unit.. I mean cheaper, as
in there are days in which diet pepsi is $6.00 for a 24pack, and $8.00
for a 12 pack. Other days it's $3.00 for a 12pack, and $8.00 for a 24
pack. Not that I ever drink diet, it's just the soda I see when i'm
walking back to get milk, which just so happens to have a coupon for
$1.00 per 1/2 gallon beating out the price for a full gallon by a fair
bit.

> If you know what you want, you have to run around a little to get the
> idea of what a fair price is for an item, or how can you know?

Hit the website. Though I must admit, this was not an option in Mexico
as I didn't have a monitor, and shopping for a monitor took 3 days,
which is funny as the local shop offered monitors but ordering takes 3
days and I didn't realize no one sold monitors. PCs yes, monitors no.
Then I could hit the websites, though most venders don't have them.


> When I go
> to Florida and shop as that is the main shopping I've done in the US,
> though I used to go to Buffalo. I love shopping in the US. Haven't been
> there for years. They have more variety in many things which is the best
> thing,and better prices in some things and its nice to see different
> things than here. Its very different and a nice change.

But Weetabix is hard to find.

> I know if its a good price when I see it for I've usually seen similar
> items. It would be good to go to the US right now with our much higher
> Canadian dollar than its been for years.

Indeed... stupid American dollar.

> How else can you know? You can't get everything online though you can
> get more than we can due to the much larger number of websites which
> sell stuff in the US - much larger population makes a big difference.

True, in a different town I'd have to drive around and get the names of
the shops, or even stop in and ask if they have a website. It's not
that way with all things... there are surples stores and such I have to
take the time to drive to.

Shopping for a printer I hit the local and mailorder sites. My last
three printers were bought online, the price was too good to pass up.