From: Barry Margolin on
In article <sehix-48EDEF.21404228012010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:

> In article <barmar-BB4487.22361628012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > > Mice are not mentioned for the iPad.
>
> Which makes sense, as you actually touch the target of interest, rather
> than driving a cursor to it and clicking the mouse or trackpad to
> simulate a touch.
>
> > Hopefully they'll add support for it. It seems like it would be more
> > convenient than the touchscreen when you put the iPad into the keyboard
> > dock. Wouldn't using the touchscreen knock it over?
>
> Why? First, all indications so far (not to mention experience with
> Apple's other multitouch devices) is that only a very light touch is
> needed to trigger actions, and second, if you've used an iPod dock, the
> device is moderately well-latched in place.
>
> I doubt if the development team failed to test use in that mode.

It also just seemed to me that if your hands are down on a horizontal
keyboard, it would be more convenient to slide a hand over to a mouse
than to reach up to the screen. But maybe that's because I'm used to
using screens on a proper computer desk, where the keyboard is in a tray
and my body is 1-2 feet away from the screen. Even though I use a
laptop at work, I only use the built-in keyboard when I take it on the
road, not at the office.

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From: Steve Hix on
In article <barmar-2E384F.22435728012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> Apple, in general, seems not to be bothered by requiring customers to
> buy adapters. Think of all the video interfaces on the various MacBook
> models, it seems like every model requires a different adapter to
> connect to DVI or VGA.

Seems that way sometimes but ...

- TiBook (1GHz), 2002
- PowerBook G4 (12-inch 1.5 GHz), 2005
- MacBook Pro (2.4GHz, LED backlight), 2007

All had the same DVI video output connector/vga adapter.

Changed to a Mini DisplayPort in the late 2008 model.

IIRC, PowerBooks had a VGA connector from October 1992 (PowerBook 180)
through October 2001 (G4 Gigabit ethernet).

The MacBooks all had mini-DVI until the late 2008 aluminum body switched
to the mini DisplayPort along with the MBP.

For a while it looked like there was a lot of churn in the desktop
line...
From: JF Mezei on
Barry Margolin wrote:

> Right, the USB is for tasks that are expected to be performed
> occasionally, not constantly. Like synching with your Mac, making a
> backup, or uploading photos from a camera.

Considering the size of the iPad, I think that providing a server USB
port would have been very useful, so you could plug in a camera, or aven
an ipod. Needing to carry and plug a special adaptor for this is
bothersome. Not a show stopper, but bothersome.
From: JF Mezei on
Barry Margolin wrote:

> If Apple could port iWork to the iPad, hopefully they'll also be able to
> go the other way with iBook.

I would have much prefered the iPaD to be an OS-X platform with more
compatibility with the deskop.

Right now, the applications for ipad/iphone are incompatible with desktops.

Apple already has a iphone emulator for developpers. Perhaps this could
become part of standard OS-X like rosetta so that desktop macs could run
iphone/ipad applications (with a layer to simulate touch screen with the
mouse.)

Right now, OS-X is split in two separate paths for applications, the
"mobile" path via the App store and the "legacy" applications on desktop
OS-X.

Having ability to run the mobile apps on the desktop would give OS-X an
edge over Windows.
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <015b7d49$0$20735$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Barry Margolin wrote:
>
> > Right, the USB is for tasks that are expected to be performed
> > occasionally, not constantly. Like synching with your Mac, making a
> > backup, or uploading photos from a camera.
>
> Considering the size of the iPad, I think that providing a server USB
> port would have been very useful, so you could plug in a camera, or aven
> an ipod. Needing to carry and plug a special adaptor for this is
> bothersome. Not a show stopper, but bothersome.

Then again, those of us who actually *own and use* Apple products know
it's not at all bothersome for iPhones or iPods, and it won't be
bothersome at all for the iPad.

Nice try, though.

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