From: Fred Moore on
In article <tph-1C2B31.11031728012010(a)localhost>,
Tom Harrington <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:

> The iPad supports BT keyboards-- see <http://www.apple.com/ipad/design/>.
>
> "iPad also comes with Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, letting you connect to
> devices like wireless headphones or the Apple�Wireless�Keyboard."
>
> The iPod touch can't do this, at least not now. It's possible that when
> a future OS comes out (3.2 or 4.0 or whatever) Apple could include this
> for iPods.
>
> Mice are not mentioned for the iPad.

Thanks for digging this out, Tom. I appreciate your effort.

Since you're a developer, let me ask you another question which you
might be able to answer:

IIRC Steve Jobs said the iPhone OS is a version of Mac OS 10. Supposedly
the iPad OS is a version of the iPhone OS. Ergo, the iPad runs Mac OS
10, despite using an ARM processor. Or is it that the OS in the iPhone
and/or iPad, while based on Mac OS 10, are so abstracted or reduced that
they are really different OSes?
From: Fred Moore on
In article <michelle-EBF973.11503428012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <fmoore-E65D27.12043128012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:
>
> > Steve, Michelle mentioned bluetooth keyboards too. Do either of you know
> > _for_sure_ if this is possible.
>
> Yes. It was mentioned in the presentation.
>
> > For instance, can you do this with the existing Touch.
>
> How is that a "for instance"? They're not the same device.

Thanks for replying, Michelle. What I mean is related to the question I
just asked Tom in this thread about the OSes used in these several
devices. Not to get too Biblical, but supposedly, Mac OS 10 begat the
iPhone OS, which begat the iPod Touch OS, which begat the iPad OS (I'm
of course simplifying). So if one can use a separate wireless keyboard
with the iPad, perhaps one could use it with an iPod Touch. Might be an
easier way to answer email, for example.

> > The reason I ask is that many of us have wireless keyboards and Magic
> > Mice which could be used with the iPad *IF* the OS has a driver to
> > support a wireless keyboard/mouse.
>
> Keyboard, yes. Mouse, no.

Right, as pointed out by a poster on Macintouch, a mouse doesn't fit the
nearly cursorless paradigm of the iPad, though I do hold out hope for a
pen to use with drawing or handwriting apps.
From: Tom Harrington on
In article <fmoore-241B39.17163728012010(a)feeder.eternal-september.org>,
Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <tph-1C2B31.11031728012010(a)localhost>,
> Tom Harrington <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:
>
> > The iPad supports BT keyboards-- see <http://www.apple.com/ipad/design/>.
> >
> > "iPad also comes with Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, letting you connect to
> > devices like wireless headphones or the Apple�Wireless�Keyboard."
> >
> > The iPod touch can't do this, at least not now. It's possible that when
> > a future OS comes out (3.2 or 4.0 or whatever) Apple could include this
> > for iPods.
> >
> > Mice are not mentioned for the iPad.
>
> Thanks for digging this out, Tom. I appreciate your effort.
>
> Since you're a developer, let me ask you another question which you
> might be able to answer:
>
> IIRC Steve Jobs said the iPhone OS is a version of Mac OS 10. Supposedly
> the iPad OS is a version of the iPhone OS. Ergo, the iPad runs Mac OS
> 10, despite using an ARM processor. Or is it that the OS in the iPhone
> and/or iPad, while based on Mac OS 10, are so abstracted or reduced that
> they are really different OSes?

They're all really the same OS, but with vastly different user
interfaces. The iPhone UI restricts access to the underlying OS much
more than on a Mac, but it's the same OS under there, albeit not
necessarily configured in the same way.

--
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
http://www.atomicbird.com/
From: Tom Harrington on
In article <fmoore-8BE3F3.17263128012010(a)feeder.eternal-september.org>,
Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:

> Right, as pointed out by a poster on Macintouch, a mouse doesn't fit the
> nearly cursorless paradigm of the iPad, though I do hold out hope for a
> pen to use with drawing or handwriting apps.

Wait no longer: <http://tenonedesign.com/stylus.php>

--
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
http://www.atomicbird.com/
From: Nick Naym on
In article 1jczvtw.1t9k1nuowtvnkN%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com, Mike
Rosenberg at mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com wrote on 1/27/10 8:35 PM:

> Per R�nne <per(a)RQNNE.invalid> wrote:
>
>> No need for an iPod Touch when you have already got an iPhone:-).
>
> I have a client who has both, and I haven't figured out why.

Have you considered _asking_ him? ;)


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