Vulcan .Net and VO 2.8 - yeah right....
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From: Ginny Caughey on 7 Oct 2006 07:42 Geoff, > I did read that and assumed a total misprint. Why on earth would you be > asking about a version of OS beyond the one still not released? You were asking about the next version of VO after the one still not released. All I can tell you about that is that there will be one. The specifics of the next version of VO after 2.8 haven't been announced yet, and when they are announced I think it's unlikely that the initial announcement will be made in a newsgroup post. When Microsoft announces the features of the next version of Windows after Vista, they probably won't do it in a newsgroup post either. Ginny
From: Brian on 7 Oct 2006 08:43 Ginny > As far as I can tell, it's mainly you that he's ignoring. But in any case > I imagine the answers to the sorts of questions you asked would be saved > for announcements at conferences. That's the way it's been in the past for > both CA and Grafx, and come to think of it, Microsoft. I've been ignoring Geoff for quite some time now. I don't even see his posts/ramblings unless they are quoted by someone else. I made a decision a long time ago to not waste another minute of my time about what Geoff, Graham or anyone one else in VS_PITA group. (That's Very Special_PITA's) We have way to much to accomplish with out having to read their nonsense all day. Brian
From: mullet on 7 Oct 2006 16:29 It's funny that you can "waste another minute" to respond sarcasticlly to Geoff by you can't "waste another minute" to give some real information to your users. You know, the ones who buy your product, but don't want to be an "exclusive little club thingy" member. "Brian" <b?ian_@g?afx_soft.com> wrote in message news:4527a0ca$0$9396$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Ginny > >> As far as I can tell, it's mainly you that he's ignoring. But in any case >> I imagine the answers to the sorts of questions you asked would be saved >> for announcements at conferences. That's the way it's been in the past >> for >> both CA and Grafx, and come to think of it, Microsoft. > > > I've been ignoring Geoff for quite some time now. I don't even see his > posts/ramblings unless they are quoted by someone else. I made a decision > a > long time ago to not waste another minute of my time about what Geoff, > Graham or anyone one else in VS_PITA group. > (That's Very Special_PITA's) > > We have way to much to accomplish with out having to read their nonsense > all > day. > > Brian > > > > > > > >
From: mullet on 7 Oct 2006 16:38 Yes, I realize as an MVP you receive information that I don't. Also as a Microsoft Partner I receive information that non-members don't. However, we all receive tons of information, betas, documentation, samples, roadmaps, etc because Microsoft takes good care of their developers, partners or non-partners. To compare the level of service received from Microsoft at all levels, to the service and information coming out of Grafx is laughable. If you honestly believe what you are saying after dealing with Microsoft for the years that you have, I question how grounded you are in reality. "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message news:4opi12Ffnb0oU1(a)individual.net... > mullet, > > I receive information from Microsoft that you don't. I also receive > information from Grafx that you don't. That was the point - that software > companies sometimes find it useful to discuss potential decisions with a > smaller group of users before finalizing that decision and announcing it > to the world. > > My vested interest in Grafx products is that I have a lot of code that > depends on them - that's all, but that's also different from those of you > who have announced that you no longer need Grafx products since you are > moving to something else. > > -- > Ginny > > > "mullet" <mullet(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message > news:FoDVg.101887$5R2.89523(a)pd7urf3no... >>> As far as I can tell, it's mainly you that he's ignoring. But in any >>> case I imagine the answers to the sorts of questions you asked would be >>> saved for announcements at conferences. That's the way it's been in the >>> past for both CA and Grafx, and come to think of it, Microsoft. >> >> I hope you are not trying to compare the information that we ALL recieve >> from Microsoft with the information coming out of Grafx. If so I believe >> you are losing touch with reality and have lost all credibilty. One can >> only assume that you have some vested insterest in the crazy marketing >> stratagy that Grafx has adopted. >> >> >> > >
From: Geoff Schaller on 7 Oct 2006 20:52
My gosh, you are like Phil trying to wriggle with words out of cocoon you spun yourself. We don't even know what was fixed in 2.8 (which IS the NEXT version). Have you read the dribble on the website? Nothing. Certainly nothing useful or informative. "...multiple fixes..." What's that? Hardly useful advertising for something Brian expects money for. Please compare this with the public (...read that... public) release notes for the freely available tech refresh for Office 2007. Gee, even take the notes around the latest patch for Oracle or DB2. Or MySQL! Beyond 2.8, what many here are seeking is a statement of intent about VO and its future. You have clear statements of intent from MS - or as an MVP are you suggesting something else? And why wouldn't this very forum be the place for Brian to make such pronouncements? It is the only public forum we have and also the only one that can reach the broadest range of potential users. Certainly a conference with 40-50 delegates in one country is hardly a representative forum. Get with the program Ginny, help make information available and relevant. Don't hide behind spin. "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message news:4opi8bFfqvjjU1(a)individual.net: > Geoff, > > > > I did read that and assumed a total misprint. Why on earth would you be > > asking about a version of OS beyond the one still not released? > > > You were asking about the next version of VO after the one still not > released. > > All I can tell you about that is that there will be one. The specifics of > the next version of VO after 2.8 haven't been announced yet, and when they > are announced I think it's unlikely that the initial announcement will be > made in a newsgroup post. When Microsoft announces the features of the next > version of Windows after Vista, they probably won't do it in a newsgroup > post either. > > Ginny |