From: Sherlock on
Geoff,

snip[ You said quite clearly that you believed VO 2.8 to be the end of
line and several people drew attention to it - not just me. ]

You seem to be able to repost where I made these comments as you claim.
Please post where this was stated and in the context it was given.
--
snip[ No-one is casting gloom here except you guys ]

Pull the other one.. You just a stirrer as somebody has already
stated.
--
snip[ and Brian's continued silence. ]

Hang on did you not post an email sent personally to you. This does not
sound like silence to me. Brian put his point forward as a supplier
trying to get on with his job to put up or shutup.

If you had not got the bullet from VOPS you would be singing the
praises of VO and denouncing anybody who said any different.
--
snip[ Me, I'm getting on with things and helping folks with questions.
]

Sure you are.. by telling them to use something else and I see you have
information on your corporate website on how to convert VO to other
directions and I am sure you will happily take their money for it.

Sounds like you have a conflict of interests to me.

Phil McGuinness
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From: Geoff Schaller on
Hi Phil,

How long do you want to perpetuate this discussion Phil?

> Hang on did you not post an email sent personally to you. This does not
> sound like silence to me. Brian put his point forward as a supplier
> trying to get on with his job to put up or shutup.

Well actually, now that you raise this, you are correct however it is
not a mail of the type that was intended to be private because
essentially there is no need for it and it only contained bile. It was
not a reasoned discussion on the matter, nor was it asking me to respond
- it was simply nasty and ill tempered. How childish. I'm going to have
my say but you can't. Well tough tittie I guess. So I put my point
again: let's talk about the future of VO and not about why we should
have that discussion. You can never win that one.

> If you had not got the bullet from VOPS you would be singing the
> praises of VO and denouncing anybody who said any different.

<rolf> Don't judge me by your standards Phil. You don't have any I
prefer to keep. I tried my best for 12 months to get the VO32 program
moving and I failed. By your own admissions you basically don't code in
VO any more so I don't know why you care.

> Sure you are.. by telling them to use something else and I see you have
> information on your corporate website on how to convert VO to other

You obviously don't read - posts or websites - so you are excused for
being wrong.

> directions and I am sure you will happily take their money for it.
> Sounds like you have a conflict of interests to me.

I guess again you can be excused for making these kinds of errors
because of course you can't read. The resources on our website are free.
That is why can download them and read them. Try it some time (read I
mean), you might like it.

Geoff


From: Sherlock on
Geoff

snip[ By your own admissions you basically don't code in VO any more so
I don't know why you care. ]

Another mistruth by yourself.

I use VO each and everyday for programming and have never said anything
to the contrary.
Just spent the entire weekend writing new code as well.

Where do constantly come up with this nonsense.

Have you thought about a holiday on an island somewhere for a month
with no laptop, no internet and a fishing rod. Could be good
therapy... and take Graham with you and maybe you can catch some
"Mullet" and of course throw it back. <G>

Phil
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From: Geoff Schaller on
Phil,

You spin a different story every time the wind changes. Its hard to keep
up with you. You have told me time and again you've basically left VO,
don't do any coding, moved over PHP, dealing with video processes,
building websites... whatever. I'll start pointing such things out as
you post them if you like <g>.

Geoff



"Sherlock" <sherlock(a)sherlock.com.au> wrote in message
news:1160345638.162179.233970(a)c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> Geoff
>
> snip[ By your own admissions you basically don't code in VO any more so
> I don't know why you care. ]
>
> Another mistruth by yourself.
>
> I use VO each and everyday for programming and have never said anything
> to the contrary.
> Just spent the entire weekend writing new code as well.
>
> Where do constantly come up with this nonsense.
>
> Have you thought about a holiday on an island somewhere for a month
> with no laptop, no internet and a fishing rod. Could be good
> therapy... and take Graham with you and maybe you can catch some
> "Mullet" and of course throw it back. <G>
>
> Phil
> -----

From: Sherlock on
Geoff

You do not listen to anybody but yourself.

snip[ You have told me time and again you've basically left VO, ]

I have not left VO... too much still to do.
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snip[ don't do any coding, moved over PHP, dealing with video
processes, building websites... whatever ]

I would like to do less coding for sure and with this new acquistion
and few more developers maybe this might happen, but I would then use
this time for protyping or just data conversions. I have 2 fulltime PHP
+ C# developers now and I do not code in PHP myself and never said I
did. We as a company do both desktop and websites / intranets
development. The greatest growth is browser based software and almost
unlimited work in this area and I do not see this slowing down.

If you are going to bullshit please get part of the story straight..

Phil
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