Vulcan .Net and VO 2.8 - yeah right....
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From: E?!k V!sser on 4 Oct 2006 05:21 Geoff, You can try to make as much confusion as you want but > If VO 2.8 is it, as it now seems likely, that will certainly spur folks on > to something else. I have made clearly that Brian has stated very recently, he will _not_stop_developping_VO32. Erik > > Geoff > > > "ER!k V!sser" <burod000_notthis_(a)planet.nl> wrote in message > news:4oh5mhFejg2kU1(a)individual.net: > >> Geoff, >> >> >> > Correct? >> >> >> Yes >> >> Erik >> >> "Geoff Schaller" <geoff(a)xxxsoftwareobjectives.com.au> schreef in bericht >> news:45235f70$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> >> > Erik. >> > >> > Ok, Let's be clear then. Your understanding is that GrafX intends to >> > continue to develop the VO32 version of VO. In the past, Brian has >> > often >> > alluded to Vulcan as being "VO" development and that pure VO need not >> > continue as a WIN32 product. So this means that GrafX will be >> > continuing >> > two separate VO development streams: a Win32 and a Dot Net version. >> > >> > Correct? >> > >> > Geoff >> > >> > >> > "ER!k V!sser" <burod000_notthis_(a)planet.nl> wrote in message >> > news:4oh47dFehq43U1(a)individual.net: >> > >> >> >> During the last SDE (sept. 15Th) Brian stated clearly that he has no >> >> plans >> >> of stopping VO development after 2.8 >> >> >> >> Erik >> >> > >
From: Sherlock on 4 Oct 2006 06:53 Geoff snip[ Phil's misinformation aside, it was Brian who made the announcement to the VOPS forum that VO 2.8 was likely to be the last version for pure VO. ] Actually he said .. that VO2.8 would be a major point release and future releases would be based on the financial support to continue this development. Sounds like a sound commercial and predictable business decision. He is not a charity you know. Every business is going to put their resources where they get the best return. To me why would you go much further with VO anyway..! -- snip[ So the premise that VO is dead did come from Brian. Misinterpretation or not, it got the tongues wagging and that is not a good thing. ] Misintepretation and spin is your game most of the time. -- snip[ That you have information to the contrary again jettisons you to the forefront of GrafX policy and information release and one wonders (again) why Brian feels a need to keep such important information ] What secret. ?? Jeez you have nothing better to do than twist and turn the facts. -- snip[ Can you see why people lose confidence in Brian when they see information release being conducted by authorised leak? It gives you the impression that this allows Brian to change his mind and then claim he never said it anyway. ] Geoff you posted so much misinformation you got the bullet from VOPS. You just make it up and then keep pushing the story .. your worse than FOX news. -- snip[ So, if VO is to continue active evolution beyond 2.8 (and not just fix releases), I'd like to see some official confirmation of the fact. ] Well put your money where you mouth is and get another 100 friends and their money too. I think you would be hard pressed to find 20 friends and definitely less with real money. -- snip[ It would alter my attitude substantially. On the other hand, 18 months between drinks is as good as no drinks...] Geez that would definitely kill Graham for sure and a dry old argument. <G> Phil McGuinness
From: Sherlock on 4 Oct 2006 07:07 Geoff, Again you quote misinformation..... this is what I said exactly SNIP[ [Steve and I do almost 100% of coding VO each day. Others to differing degrees have to maintain a code base. To me VO2.8 is probably the end of the line for VO] Note that it says "TO ME VO2,8 is probably the end of the line for VO". This saids TO ME.. and my opinion it serves and completes my needs and requirements for WIN32 compiler and the future for me and my team will be .NET and PHP. Don't try add some twist to this statement and add all your spin that this was Brian semi authorised statement. Phil McGuinness -----------------
From: Geoff Schaller on 4 Oct 2006 07:07 Me... confusing? <rofl>. This is a direct cut from YOUR post: *********************** > that he will continue VO32 'forever' should be that he will _not_ continue VO32 'forever' Erik *********************** Come on Eric, you're making a 3 ring circus out of this. Whether or not Brian has made up his mind is moot. We don't know and want to. You certainly haven't <g>. "ER!k V!sser" <burod000_notthis_(a)planet.nl> wrote in message news:4ohcouFeku0cU1(a)individual.net: > Geoff, > > You can try to make as much confusion as you want but > > > > If VO 2.8 is it, as it now seems likely, that will certainly spur folks on > > to something else. > > > I have made clearly that Brian has stated very recently, he will > _not_stop_developping_VO32. > > Erik >
From: Geoff Schaller on 4 Oct 2006 07:10
Nice one Phil. Keep wriggling, you'll squirm out one day. Your almost exact words were that 2.8 was to be the last version for VO. You also said this came straight from Brian. Spin away sunshine! "Sherlock" <sherlock(a)sherlock.com.au> wrote in message news:1159959186.891636.138020(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com: > Geoff > > snip[ Phil's misinformation aside, it was Brian who made the > announcement to the VOPS forum that VO 2.8 was likely to be the last > version for pure VO. ] > > Actually he said .. that VO2.8 would be a major point release and > future releases would be based on the financial support to continue > this development. Sounds like a sound commercial and predictable > business decision. He is not a charity you know. Every business is > going to put their resources where they get the best return. To me why > would you go much further with VO anyway..! > -- > snip[ So the premise that VO is dead did come from Brian. > Misinterpretation or not, it got the tongues wagging and that is not a > good thing. ] > > Misintepretation and spin is your game most of the time. > -- > snip[ That you have information to the contrary again jettisons you to > the forefront of GrafX policy and information release and one wonders > (again) why Brian feels a need to keep such important information ] > > What secret. ?? Jeez you have nothing better to do than twist and > turn the facts. > -- > snip[ Can you see why people lose confidence in Brian when they see > information release being conducted by authorised leak? It gives you > the impression that this allows Brian to change his mind and then claim > he never said it anyway. ] > > Geoff you posted so much misinformation you got the bullet from VOPS. > You just make it up and then keep pushing the story .. your worse than > FOX news. > -- > snip[ So, if VO is to continue active evolution beyond 2.8 (and not > just fix releases), I'd like to see some official confirmation of the > fact. ] > > Well put your money where you mouth is and get another 100 friends and > their money too. I think you would be hard pressed to find 20 friends > and definitely less with real money. > -- > snip[ It would alter my attitude substantially. On the other hand, 18 > months between drinks is as good as no drinks...] > > Geez that would definitely kill Graham for sure and a dry old argument. > <G> > > Phil McGuinness |