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From: Jason on 17 Jul 2010 20:21 In article <TtydnYb6EbP2hN_RnZ2dnUVZ_goAAAAA(a)giganews.com>, Ralph <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 7/16/2010 3:12 PM, Jason wrote: > > In article<i1ps07$rkr$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Parish *~" > > <Parish(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > > > >> "Jason"<Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > >> news:Jason-1507102002470001(a)67-150-123-205.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > >>> > >>> That is what lots of evolutionists believe but it does NOT mean that > >>> evolutionists are 100% sure that it happened that way. > >> > >> I don't know of any "evolutionist" who believes a magical invisible god > >> created that first life, the first living cell. > >> > >> Humans were created > >>> by God. They share features with apes because God also created apes. > >> > >> So what's the connection? He was limited in the genetic material to work > >> with? > >> > >> One > >>> evolutionist tried to convince me that since apes and mankind are > >>> similar--that means that one of mankind's ancestor was an ape-like > >>> creature. My response was that since many larger warm blooded animals need > >>> things like lungs, stomachs, veins, arteries, hearts, etc.--why not make > >>> them similar in those creatures. Why should God have to develop or invent > >>> special unique lungs, etc for mankind that were VASTLY different than > >>> lungs, etc. that are in larger animals. Do you see my point? > >> > >> I see your point but it doesn't mean any gods were involved since life is so > >> "faulty" as you must agree. The god would have had to be drunk or a sadist > >> to create us as he did. And Geeze.... why would a god create disease > >> organisms and parasites to make us suffer and die so horribly? > > > > Everything that God first created was perfect. Over the years--it has been > > corrupted by sin. > > > > Where does god say his creation was perfect? It's my opinion based on the first several chapters of the Old Testament.
From: Ralph on 17 Jul 2010 20:41 On 7/17/2010 8:18 PM, Jason wrote: > In article<TtydnYf6EbPVhN_RnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph > <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 7/16/2010 3:10 PM, Jason wrote: >>> In article<i1pd0n$24s$1(a)news.datemas.de>, "Anna DeGanno"<AD(a)invalid.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "Jason"<Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Jason-1507101702370001(a)67-150-126-95.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >>>>> In article<i1o1h3$eib$1(a)news.datemas.de>, "Anna DeGanno"<AD(a)invalid.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Jason"<Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Jason-1507101421280001(a)66-53-215-33.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >>>>>>> In article<SoidnSE-D7YixaLRnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph >>>>>>> <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Here we go with the odds again. What are the odds that a god who is >>>>>>>> involved personally with everything on this paltry earth created the >>>>>>>> entire universe just for the fun of it. Why, I'll bet that they would >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> incalculable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I never stated that God created the entire universe just for the fun of >>>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> What other reason would a great all powerful and all knowing god have. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For fellowship with mankind. >>>> >>>> But he/she/it doesn't "fellowship" with us. It fellowships, according to >>>> the bible, with angels and other heavenly "beings." What it has done > in the >>>> past is murder human beings by the thousands, not fellowship with > them. You >>>> need to think a little more before you reply to questions. Or perhaps >>>> actually read your bible cover to cover and trash the WTBTS rags and books. >>>> :) >>> >>> I disagree. There is lots of evidence in the Bible that God has fellowship >>> with mankind. An example is the relationship God had with prophets, Moses, >>> Joseph, John (the writer of the book of Revelations) etc. >> >> >> >> >> Amazing isn't it, all of this fellowshipping so long ago and the only >> record we have of it is in the bible. Why do you think god disappeared? >> Have you ever read the book, "The Disappearance of God"? IT will tell >> you why god no longer fellowships with mankind. > > God continues to fellowship with various men and women living today. > > Sure he does and my pet rock fellowships with me:-)).
From: Ralph on 17 Jul 2010 20:41 On 7/17/2010 8:19 PM, Jason wrote: > In article<0PmdneCAs9gIYdzRnZ2dnUVZ_voAAAAA(a)giganews.com>, Ralph > <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 7/15/2010 8:02 PM, Jason wrote: >>> In article<i1o1h3$eib$1(a)news.datemas.de>, "Anna DeGanno"<AD(a)invalid.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "Jason"<Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Jason-1507101421280001(a)66-53-215-33.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >>>>> In article<SoidnSE-D7YixaLRnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, Ralph >>>>> <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> Here we go with the odds again. What are the odds that a god who is >>>>>> involved personally with everything on this paltry earth created the >>>>>> entire universe just for the fun of it. Why, I'll bet that they would be >>>>>> incalculable. >>>>> >>>>> I never stated that God created the entire universe just for the fun of >>>>> it. >>>> >>>> What other reason would a great all powerful and all knowing god have. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> For fellowship with mankind. >> >> >> >> >> The solar system in so minuscule to the entire universe that it can >> hardly be imagined. Why did god create the universe instead of our solar >> system? > > He created the universe and our solar system. God created life on this planet. Read the thread again Andrew, you're getting confused again.
From: Ralph on 17 Jul 2010 20:43 On 7/17/2010 8:21 PM, Jason wrote: > In article<TtydnYb6EbP2hN_RnZ2dnUVZ_goAAAAA(a)giganews.com>, Ralph > <mmman_90(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 7/16/2010 3:12 PM, Jason wrote: >>> In article<i1ps07$rkr$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Parish *~" >>> <Parish(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> "Jason"<Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Jason-1507102002470001(a)67-150-123-205.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >>>>> >>>>> That is what lots of evolutionists believe but it does NOT mean that >>>>> evolutionists are 100% sure that it happened that way. >>>> >>>> I don't know of any "evolutionist" who believes a magical invisible god >>>> created that first life, the first living cell. >>>> >>>> Humans were created >>>>> by God. They share features with apes because God also created apes. >>>> >>>> So what's the connection? He was limited in the genetic material to work >>>> with? >>>> >>>> One >>>>> evolutionist tried to convince me that since apes and mankind are >>>>> similar--that means that one of mankind's ancestor was an ape-like >>>>> creature. My response was that since many larger warm blooded animals need >>>>> things like lungs, stomachs, veins, arteries, hearts, etc.--why not make >>>>> them similar in those creatures. Why should God have to develop or invent >>>>> special unique lungs, etc for mankind that were VASTLY different than >>>>> lungs, etc. that are in larger animals. Do you see my point? >>>> >>>> I see your point but it doesn't mean any gods were involved since > life is so >>>> "faulty" as you must agree. The god would have had to be drunk or a sadist >>>> to create us as he did. And Geeze.... why would a god create disease >>>> organisms and parasites to make us suffer and die so horribly? >>> >>> Everything that God first created was perfect. Over the years--it has been >>> corrupted by sin. >> >> >> >> Where does god say his creation was perfect? > > > It's my opinion based on the first several chapters of the Old Testament. > > Then you agree that god never said it.
From: Saint Heretica on 17 Jul 2010 22:01
"Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-1707101718270001(a)67-150-123-126.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > God continues to fellowship with various men and women living today. > Sorry Jason, but those who HEAR god/s talk to them have almost all been diagnosed with schizophrenia or some other serious mental disorder. You don't seem to know what the word fellowshipping means. It doesn't mean someone who sits and prays to an invisible silent thing they believe is somewhere in the heavens. |