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From: Parish *~ on 19 Jul 2010 23:47 "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-1907100133520001(a)66-53-209-75.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > In article > <30f9f50b-09a1-4e69-b670-6c805d584a89(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > Why do you believe that Darwin made this statement: > > "There is grandeur in this view of life, HAVING BEEN > ORIGINALLY BREATHED [BY THE CREATOR] INTO A FEW FORMS OR INTO ONE; and > that from so simple a beginning, endless forms most beautiful and most > wonderful have been, and are being evolved." First, why are you adding [BY THE CREATOR] to what he wrote? None of us can know what he had in his mind at the time. > I define it to mean that Darwin believed God breathed life into Adam and > perhaps also into Eve and that God made an endless number of plants and > animals that were beautiful and wonderful. Those plants and animals later > evolved. Where has Darwin mentioned Adam and Eve? Why are you adding them to what he wrote. He never mentioned them. -- The Parrish *~, American-American-American. * * * * * * "The Mass is the most perfect form of making money." * * * * * * * *
From: Anna DeGanno on 20 Jul 2010 00:18 "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-1907101558040001(a)67-150-124-103.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > Do you recall from the various posts that several people told me or at > least strongly implied that I was wrong when I stated that Darwin wrote in > his famous book that he believed that God created mankind and life on this > planet? Darwin makes no mention of a god creating mankind. How can you see what is not there? It turns out that I was telling the truth and I proved it. Of > course, I knew I was telling the truth since I had seen those same words > last year. Again.... Darwin makes no mention of a god creating mankind. How can you see what is not there? What he did not write? One of the posters told me about those words mentioned above > and even I was shocked when I read what Darwin had actually written about > his beliefs. It's obvious from his words, that he did not believe that > mankind evolved from a single celled life form and he also believed that > God created beautiful and wonderful plants and animals. From what words? Darwin makes no mention of a god creating mankind. You're adding the "god" to his works. What will you add next?
From: Smiler. on 20 Jul 2010 01:14 Bob T. wrote: > On Jul 18, 6:56 pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> In article >> <92c62dc8-b13e-46e8-9ebe-b3a1fc09b...(a)c36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, >> "Bob >> >> >> >> >> >> T." <b...(a)synapse-cs.com> wrote: >>> On Jul 18, 1:40=A0pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>> In article >>>> <ef5793ee-e12a-4893-81f6-e84b68198...(a)p22g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, >>>> "Bob >> >>>> T." <b...(a)synapse-cs.com> wrote: >>>>> On Jul 18, 12:48=3DA0pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >>>>>>> But you don't know very much about biology, so why should >>>>>>> anyone ca= re what you think the subject? =3DA0You just now >>>>>>> admitted that your so= urces for the answers to scientific >>>>>>> questions are the Bible and your own imagination - it's no >>>>>>> wonder that you're completely wrong! >> >>>>>>> For your information, Jason, you yourself used to be a one >>>>>>> celled l= ife form. =3DA0Since then you have increased billions >>>>>>> of times in size = and dozens of times in intelligence. =3DA0If >>>>>>> that happened to you in a = few short decades, how can you >>>>>>> possible claim it's impossible for speci= es to make that same >>>>>>> change in billions of years? =3DA0Oh, right - it contradicts >>>>>>> Genesis, so you know it ain't true. >> >>>>>>> - Bob T >> >>>>>> Bob, >>>>>> Yes, you and I started out as a one celled life form. That's not >>>>>> an i= ssue=3D . The issue is that many of the advocates of >>>>>> abiogenesis believe that mankind evolved from a one celled life >>>>>> form. >> >>>>> Actually, that's not "abiogenesis", that's just evolution... and >>>>> yes, everyone who understands biology knows that humans evolved >>>>> from single- celled life-forms. >> >>>> That's not true. The professors that teach at the ICR college >>>> understand biology and even teach biology. They believe that God >>>> created life on thi= s planet and humans did NOT evolve from >>>> single celled life forms. >> >>> A belief they had before they studied biology and a belief they >>> kept, for religious reasons, after they studied. >> >>>> Believe it or not, not all college graduates that have taken >>>> college biol= ogy classes don't agree with you. They understand >>>> biology as much as evolutionists. >> >>> The are prevented from understanding the parts that conflict with >>> their religion by fear of offending their deity. >> >>> - Bob T >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >> I have seen poles > > Lech Walesa? Pope John Paul II? > Were they dancing? -- Smiler The godless one. a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believers.
From: Jason on 20 Jul 2010 02:45 In article <i2382s$1h6$1(a)news.datemas.de>, "Anna DeGanno" <AD(a)invalid.com> wrote: > "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Jason-1907101558040001(a)67-150-124-103.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > Do you recall from the various posts that several people told me or at > > least strongly implied that I was wrong when I stated that Darwin wrote in > > his famous book that he believed that God created mankind and life on this > > planet? > > Darwin makes no mention of a god creating mankind. How can you see what is > not there? > > It turns out that I was telling the truth and I proved it. Of > > course, I knew I was telling the truth since I had seen those same words > > last year. > > Again.... Darwin makes no mention of a god creating mankind. How can you > see what is not there? What he did not write? > > One of the posters told me about those words mentioned above > > and even I was shocked when I read what Darwin had actually written about > > his beliefs. It's obvious from his words, that he did not believe that > > mankind evolved from a single celled life form and he also believed that > > God created beautiful and wonderful plants and animals. > > From what words? > Darwin makes no mention of a god creating mankind. You're adding the "god" > to his works. What will you add next? "There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being, evolved." � Charles Darwin My interpretation: God breathed life into Adam and perhaps also into Eve. God also created an endless number of beautiful and wonderful plants and animals. After the creation process was finished is when evolution kicked in.
From: Jason on 20 Jul 2010 02:51
In article <i2368n$pjf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Parish *~" <Parish(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > "Jason" <Jason(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:Jason-1907100133520001(a)66-53-209-75.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... > > In article > > <30f9f50b-09a1-4e69-b670-6c805d584a89(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Why do you believe that Darwin made this statement: > > > > "There is grandeur in this view of life, HAVING BEEN > > ORIGINALLY BREATHED [BY THE CREATOR] INTO A FEW FORMS OR INTO ONE; and > > that from so simple a beginning, endless forms most beautiful and most > > wonderful have been, and are being evolved." > > First, why are you adding [BY THE CREATOR] to what he wrote? None of us can > know what he had in his mind at the time. > > > I define it to mean that Darwin believed God breathed life into Adam and > > perhaps also into Eve and that God made an endless number of plants and > > animals that were beautiful and wonderful. Those plants and animals later > > evolved. > > Where has Darwin mentioned Adam and Eve? Why are you adding them to what he > wrote. He never mentioned them. It's obvious to me that he was talking about God. You are looking at his statement with evolution colored glasses. I am looking at his statement knowing full well that Darwin had an excellent understanding of the Bible and even planned to become a minister. In those days, the vast majority of the people in the world were Christians. |