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From: Smiler on 4 Jul 2008 19:56 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:b5fec71b-e38e-4dcf-b61a-86137671e438(a)m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Jul 3, 10:51 pm, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 4, 12:32 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 3, 3:57?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:26:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > wrote > > > in alt.atheism: > > > > >On Jul 2, 2:15?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > >> > On Jul 1, 8:49?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: > > > >> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:14:36 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >> >> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >> >> wrote: > > > > >> >>> On Jul 1, 1:07?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: > > > >> >>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:17:22 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >> >>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >> >>>> wrote: > > > >> >>>>> On Jun 30, 3:58?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> > > > >> >>>>> wrote: > > > >> >>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >> >>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >> >>>>>> wrote: > > > >> >>>>>>> On Jun 29, 4:12?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> > > > >> >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >> >>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >> >>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > >> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 7:07?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> > > > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > >> >>>>>>>> ... > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I did not lie. ?There actually is a conduit for water > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> between Gihon > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> spring and the pool of Siloam. > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> And, as you know, that is not the lie I have pointed out > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> to you. You lie > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> here by falsely and intentionally trying to distract us > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> from the lie > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> under discussion. You know that no one imposes abortion > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> in the United > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> States. That is another in a long line of lies that you > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> refuse to repent > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> of.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >> >>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court and other atheists imposed abortion on > > > >> >>>>>>>>> the United > > > >> >>>>>>>>> States. > > > >> >>>>>>>> Abortion is not imposed. You know that. No one is ever > > > >> >>>>>>>> forced to have an > > > >> >>>>>>>> abortion by our government. Stop lying to us. > > > >> >>>>>>> Women have been forced to have abortions in order to get > > > >> >>>>>>> welfare > > > >> >>>>>>> assistance. > > > >> >>>>>> Bullshit. Citation, please. > > > >> >>>>> And our government still recognizes our right to trial by > > > >> >>>>> jury, > > > >> >>>>> right? > > > >> >>>> Nice attempt at distraction, but completely irrelevant. This > > > >> >>>> has > > > >> >>>> absolutely nothing to do with women being forced to have > > > >> >>>> abortions in > > > >> >>>> order to get welfare assistance. Which is still a completely > > > >> >>>> bogus > > > >> >>>> claim on your part. > > > >> >>>>> How gullible do you think I am about "our government"? ?Or > > > >> >>>>> maybe you are just including atheists when you say "our > > > >> >>>>> government". > > > >> >>>> I didn't say you were gullible, I said you were lying. Your > > > >> >>>> pathetic > > > >> >>>> attempt to change the subject, rather than support your claim, > > > >> >>>> just > > > >> >>>> confirms my assessment. > > > >> >>> I personally know one woman who was subjected to governmental > > > >> >>> reproduction control. > > > >> >> Was she Chinese? Seriously, put up, or shut up. You made a > > > >> >> claim; now > > > >> >> either back it up or retract it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > > >> > Do atheists have some special program for Chinese women in the > > > >> > United > > > >> > States? ?We know they do in China. ?However, there are a lot of > > > >> > women > > > >> > in the United States you do not even seem to consider, women in > > > >> > mental > > > >> > institutions, women in prisons, etc., but the one I know > > > >> > personally > > > >> > was just a woman who applied for welfare assistance. > > > > >> Playing a slippery game, aren't you Robert? ;-)- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > >I am not playing a game. ?Atheists run China, and women in China > > > >definitely do get government ordered abortions. > > > > It's a bit more complex than that, none of this has anything to do > > > with > > > atheism as you must know, but since you are someone who has a > > > third-grade understanding of the world and your religion, I can > > > understand how you got confused. > > > > >It also happens here in the United States. > > > > You keep claiming this. You appear to be lying. If you were not lying, > > > you would have been pointing us to evidence.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > So what do you think you are running here, a court of law? > > Real judges do not impress me. What made you think that imitators > > like you would? > > Robert B. Winn > > So, you don't even respect rel judge, let alone anything truth or > system.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Judges ------------------------ Ho! <whack> Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Free Lunch on 4 Jul 2008 20:02 On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:14:42 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in alt.atheism: > >"BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message >news:486eab34$1(a)clear.net.nz... >> Alex W. wrote: >>> "The Natural Philosopher" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>> news:1215166228.23766.0(a)proxy01.news.clara.net... >>> >>> >>>> They say God was a Welshman: No one else, when creating Man and Woman, >>>> would have put a leisure center next to a waste disposal unit. >>> >>> God can't have been a Welshman or we'd be extinct, having wasted all our >>> seed on those alluring sheep .... >> >> Hey, he could've been an Aussie! Would explain how that nation was so >> abundantly blessed with freakishly good cricketers. > >They're not; problem is, we're so shite. >Rather like the tennis. >And the football. >And the rugby. > If Andy Murray hadn't had to play Nadal or Federer he could have kept playing.
From: Smiler on 4 Jul 2008 19:58 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:b87816fc-7a3c-4940-affe-3ce49f4e710a(a)k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On Jul 3, 7:19 pm, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 4, 6:33 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 3, 2:01 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Jul 2, 5:52?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:26:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > > >>> On Jul 2, 2:15?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>> On Jul 1, 8:49?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:14:36 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> On Jul 1, 1:07?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:17:22 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 30, 3:58?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 4:12?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 7:07?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ... > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not lie. ?There actually is a conduit for water > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between Gihon > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spring and the pool of Siloam. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as you know, that is not the lie I have pointed > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out to you. You lie > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> here by falsely and intentionally trying to distract us > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the lie > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> under discussion. You know that no one imposes abortion > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the United > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> States. That is another in a long line of lies that you > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> refuse to repent > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of.- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court and other atheists imposed abortion on > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the United > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> States. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Abortion is not imposed. You know that. No one is ever > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> forced to have an > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> abortion by our government. Stop lying to us. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Women have been forced to have abortions in order to get > > > >>>>>>>>>>> welfare > > > >>>>>>>>>>> assistance. > > > >>>>>>>>>> Bullshit. Citation, please. > > > >>>>>>>>> And our government still recognizes our right to trial by > > > >>>>>>>>> jury, > > > >>>>>>>>> right? > > > >>>>>>>> Nice attempt at distraction, but completely irrelevant. This > > > >>>>>>>> has > > > >>>>>>>> absolutely nothing to do with women being forced to have > > > >>>>>>>> abortions in > > > >>>>>>>> order to get welfare assistance. Which is still a completely > > > >>>>>>>> bogus > > > >>>>>>>> claim on your part. > > > >>>>>>>>> How gullible do you think I am about "our government"? ?Or > > > >>>>>>>>> maybe you are just including atheists when you say "our > > > >>>>>>>>> government". > > > >>>>>>>> I didn't say you were gullible, I said you were lying. Your > > > >>>>>>>> pathetic > > > >>>>>>>> attempt to change the subject, rather than support your > > > >>>>>>>> claim, just > > > >>>>>>>> confirms my assessment. > > > >>>>>>> I personally know one woman who was subjected to governmental > > > >>>>>>> reproduction control. > > > >>>>>> Was she Chinese? Seriously, put up, or shut up. You made a > > > >>>>>> claim; now > > > >>>>>> either back it up or retract it.- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>>>> Do atheists have some special program for Chinese women in the > > > >>>>> United > > > >>>>> States? ?We know they do in China. ?However, there are a lot of > > > >>>>> women > > > >>>>> in the United States you do not even seem to consider, women in > > > >>>>> mental > > > >>>>> institutions, women in prisons, etc., but the one I know > > > >>>>> personally > > > >>>>> was just a woman who applied for welfare assistance. > > > >>>> Playing a slippery game, aren't you Robert? ;-)- Hide quoted > > > >>>> text - > > > >>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>> I am not playing a game. ?Atheists run China, and women in China > > > >>> definitely do get government ordered abortions. ?It also happens > > > >>> here > > > >>> in the United States. > > > >> Again, bullshit. Provide one *documented* example of it happening > > > >> in > > > >> the US. Not an anecdote about some woman you claim to know. Your > > > >> credibility is zero until you back up your claim.- Hide quoted > > > >> text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > Well, I would suspect that nothing like that ever gets documented. > > > > Here in Phoenix a woman went to an abortion clinic, bled to death > > > > after the doctor went home, and the staff of the abortion clinic put > > > > her in the trunk of a car. Strangely, the police discovered when > > > > they > > > > found her body that none of it had been documented. So we do know > > > > that sometimes things do not get documented. > > > > That is kind of sad. You have to do a lot of back-pedalling to try to > > > square your opinions with some vague notion of reality, don't you!- > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Your claim is that no woman in the United States has ever been > > subjected to reproductive control. I say you are wrong. I personally > > know a woman who was. So let's talk about China. Do you claim that > > no women in China have ever been subjected to reproduction control? I > > believe that you atheists have a plan in place for the entire world, > > not just the United States and China. > > Robert B. Winn > > Yes, our plan is to rid this world of loonies and bigotry which is > leading the way backwards.... > You find that so bad?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well --------------------------- Ho! <whack> Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 4 Jul 2008 20:15 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:611de53b-e4d6-47c5-9fac-a6cb3f5d6a3f(a)8g2000hse.googlegroups.com... On Jul 3, 4:13?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:39:14 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Jul 2, 4:03?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:38:13 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > >> <57394af9-c4e1-41e3-9575-3efdee6c1...(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >On Jul 1, 7:11?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:23:02 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > >> >> <5a6e721c-a4e8-41e0-b92d-5724b8818...(a)c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >> >On Jul 1, 1:13?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: > > >> >> >> >> atheists.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >> > Well, I am sure you will not. ?What would their reaction be to > >> >> >> > discover that the apostle Paul had identified the theory of > >> >> >> > evolution > >> >> >> > as a fable? > > >> >> >> They would accuse you of lying too. It's the only sensible > >> >> >> reaction to > >> >> >> your lies.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >Well, I think that is exactly right. ?Atheists accuse anyone who > >> >> >disagrees with their atheistic doctrines of lying. > > >> >> That's your excuse. I call you a liar because you are lying. It has > >> >> nothing to do with disagreeing with you, it has to do with the fact > >> >> that > >> >> you have chosen to lie repeatedly to us. It must be sad for you that > >> >> everyone, even the lowly atheists, can see how totally untrustworthy > >> >> and > >> >> dishonest you are.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >Uh huh. ?Well, why is it that you think I should care what you think > >> >about me? > > >> You should care about the impression you make. Being a liar doesn't > >> earn > >> you respect, not even from those who share your beliefs.- Hide quoted > >> text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >People who share my beliefs never accuse me of lying. ? We get along > >fine. > > Does anyone share the faith you have? You certainly aren't an orthodox > Latter-Day Saint.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, so ------------------------------------------- Ho! <whackety whack> Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 4 Jul 2008 20:19
"rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:211e4c29-e783-4569-b7f9-b5847f257287(a)l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... On Jul 3, 5:07?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:33:39 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Jul 2, 3:59?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:13:46 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >> "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in > >> <871cf3fc-2cb9-42aa-99d8-bc4efed0a...(a)s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>: > > >> >On Jul 2, 3:34 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > >> >> On Jul 1, 6:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > >> >> <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >> >> > On Jul 2, 11:27 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > >> >> > > On Jul 1, 1:14 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > >> >> > > > rbwinn wrote: > >> >> > > > > On Jul 1, 12:34 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> > >> >> > > > > wrote: > >> >> > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> > > > >>> On Jun 30, 12:25 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> > >> >> > > > >>> wrote: > >> >> > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> > > > >>>>> On Jun 28, 6:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> > >> >> > > > >>>>> wrote: > >> >> > > > >>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:26:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >> >> > > > >>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> > > > >>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> > > > >>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:50?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> > >> >> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:11:54 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 7:17?am, Free Lunch > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>> <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:26?am, BuddyThunder > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:42?pm, BuddyThunder > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack wrote: > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am upset by *people* who > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe that the Bible is anything more than > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mythology and try ?to impose > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs on me ?using the Bible as evidence. > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can someone impose a belief on you? ?Just > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe whatever you want to > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe. > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The wrong part is when people attempt to use > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the myth to formulate > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> public policy or indoctrinate children or > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inform foreign policy. > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually they use fables. ?The apostles > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said they would be > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> turned to fables in the last days. ?A fable is a > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> story about animals > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> like the story about monkeys turning into > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> humans. > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, you're ignorant about evolution. Colour me > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> surprised. > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In what way am I ignorant about evolution? > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Monkeys and humans do share a common ancestor. Your > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> denial of the fact > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> does not change that fact.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>>> Charles Darwin was not my ancestor. > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>> So? > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>> Evolution happens. Learn to deal with reality.- Hide > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>> quoted text - > >> >> > > > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> > > > >>>>>>> I never have believed in evolution. ?I think it is a > >> >> > > > >>>>>>> fable, just as > >> >> > > > >>>>>>> Paul said it was. > >> >> > > > >>>>>> Paul knew nothing about it. You mock the Bible with > >> >> > > > >>>>>> such silly > >> >> > > > >>>>>> interpretations of it.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> > > > >>>>> I just believe what Paul said. ?You seem a little upset > >> >> > > > >>>>> that I do not > >> >> > > > >>>>> believe your fable. > >> >> > > > >>>> Can you please identify what he said about it? Please?- > >> >> > > > >>>> Hide quoted text - > >> >> > > > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> > > > >>> 2 Tim 4:3 ?For the time will come when they will not > >> >> > > > >>> endure sound > >> >> > > > >>> doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to > >> >> > > > >>> themselves > >> >> > > > >>> teachers, having itching ears; > >> >> > > > >>> 4 ? And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, > >> >> > > > >>> and shall be > >> >> > > > >>> turned unto fables. > >> >> > > > >> I can't see any mention of evolution. I can't even see any > >> >> > > > >> description > >> >> > > > >> of the theory, or even a theistic strawman description. Can > >> >> > > > >> you help me > >> >> > > > >> out? You made a claim that seems difficult to > >> >> > > > >> substantiate.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> > > > > Well, I think we are getting into subject matter that is too > >> >> > > > > difficult > >> >> > > > > for you. ?Maybe we should go back to Hezekiah's tunnel. > > >> >> > > > I'm not struggling, maybe you could point out the verse where > >> >> > > > evolution > >> >> > > > is singled out. Maybe he's talking about the germ theory of > >> >> > > > disease. I'm > >> >> > > > sure you believe that demons are behind illness, rather than > >> >> > > > pathogens.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> > > > - Show quoted text - > > >> >> > > Well, Paul said that in the last days, men would be turned to > >> >> > > fables > >> >> > > to explain things. ?So today we see science explaining most > >> >> > > things by > >> >> > > fables. > >> >> > > Robert B. Winn > > >> >> > Please explain how "evolution" counts as a fable? ?And we'll show > >> >> > you > >> >> > how you understanding of evolution is horribly wrong. > > >> >> > Al- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> > - Show quoted text - > > >> >> Well, as Paul pointed out, in the last days men would be unable to > >> >> endure sound doctrine and would devise a fable to try to explain the > >> >> existence of mankind without a God. > >> >> Robert B. Winn > > >> >That doesn't relate evolution to a fable. > >> >Do you ever answer a question that isn't just from your own > >> >imagination? > > >> >Al > > >> I do think that Paul was being pretty slick when he predicted that > >> someone would call him on his BS, but that his followers should ignore > >> that he had nothing at all to back up his claims.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, probably the best one to explain your idea to would be Jesus > >Christ. > > As you know, there is no evidence that He exists now and very little > that supports the claim that He once existed.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, his sheep know his voice. Atheists do not. ---------------------------------- Jesus loves ewe! Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279 |