From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 14:54 mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > In article <eg9dpn$ba4$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes: > > >It nicely rebuts the claim that the warning of Pakistan was the reason he [OBL] > >survived. > > That's not the claim (not mine, at least). Just that the warning of > Pakistan is an indication of lack of seriousness about the whole > affair. What warning ? Graham
From: John Fields on 8 Oct 2006 14:55 On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:38:20 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >T Wake wrote: > >> The problem is a country which is so hyped up about "rag heads" attacking >> that non-threats are percieved as threats, elimintated and people think its >> ok - 'cos there was a threat. > >Which is why they indulge in 'pre-emptive war' - just in case. > >What a bunch of madmen. --- http://www.sabrizain.demon.co.uk/malaya/coward.wav -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 8 Oct 2006 14:56 On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:44:36 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >krw wrote: >> >> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >> >> > Kurt Ullman wrote: >> >> > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > We won the Battle of Britain with no American help. >> >> >> >> No ammunition? No fuel? No food? >> > >> >Paid for. >> > >> >> No brains! >> > >> >What American brains ? None were involved. >> >> --- >> ??? >> >> http://www.taphilo.com/history/WWII/BofBamericanpilots.shtml > >7 American pilots ( out of a total of 510 non British flyers ) joined >the RAF in the Battle of Britain according to Wikipedia. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_britain#Foreign_contribution > >So what ? What's the big deal about *brains* ??? --- So you discredit the British fighter pilots as well? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 14:59 John Fields wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > >In the context of an aircraft launched weapon system. Generally speaking > >these are not mounted on passenger aircraft. > > --- > And, generally, speaking, airliners don't stray miles away from > their flight paths Do you know how wide an air lane is ? I'm not aware of any 'straying' being involved. > and do respond when contacted by the military. Civil airliners aren't fitted with military frequency radios. > To not do so _is_ madness. If the call had been made to "Iranian airliner" it would have been , but it wasn't. The warning went out to "Iranian F-14". Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable. Graham
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 15:01
John Fields wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > >Did the commander of the warship issue a public apology? > > --- > No, and it wasn't his job to. If there was any apology to be made > it would probably have come from the State Department or the > President. I believe no apology was issued Why not ? > (although statements of > deep regret were made: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/3/newsid_4678000/4678707.stm > > and reparations were made to the victims' survivors ) because none > was necessary. The Vincennes' actions were all "by the book" No they weren't. > and > all that was needed for the tragedy to have been averted would have > been for the airliner's pilot to change the airplane's course. No warning was ever sent to an airliner. Graham |