From: Eeyore on


mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

> In article <eg9dpn$ba4$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes:
>
> >It nicely rebuts the claim that the warning of Pakistan was the reason he [OBL]
> >survived.
>
> That's not the claim (not mine, at least). Just that the warning of
> Pakistan is an indication of lack of seriousness about the whole
> affair.

What warning ?

Graham

From: John Fields on
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:38:20 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>T Wake wrote:
>
>> The problem is a country which is so hyped up about "rag heads" attacking
>> that non-threats are percieved as threats, elimintated and people think its
>> ok - 'cos there was a threat.
>
>Which is why they indulge in 'pre-emptive war' - just in case.
>
>What a bunch of madmen.

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John Fields
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From: John Fields on
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:44:36 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >krw wrote:
>> >> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>> >> > Kurt Ullman wrote:
>> >> > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > We won the Battle of Britain with no American help.
>> >>
>> >> No ammunition? No fuel? No food?
>> >
>> >Paid for.
>> >
>> >> No brains!
>> >
>> >What American brains ? None were involved.
>>
>> ---
>> ???
>>
>> http://www.taphilo.com/history/WWII/BofBamericanpilots.shtml
>
>7 American pilots ( out of a total of 510 non British flyers ) joined
>the RAF in the Battle of Britain according to Wikipedia.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_britain#Foreign_contribution
>
>So what ? What's the big deal about *brains* ???

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So you discredit the British fighter pilots as well?


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
> >In the context of an aircraft launched weapon system. Generally speaking
> >these are not mounted on passenger aircraft.
>
> ---
> And, generally, speaking, airliners don't stray miles away from
> their flight paths

Do you know how wide an air lane is ? I'm not aware of any 'straying' being involved.


> and do respond when contacted by the military.

Civil airliners aren't fitted with military frequency radios.


> To not do so _is_ madness.

If the call had been made to "Iranian airliner" it would have been , but it wasn't.
The warning went out to "Iranian F-14".

Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
> >Did the commander of the warship issue a public apology?
>
> ---
> No, and it wasn't his job to. If there was any apology to be made
> it would probably have come from the State Department or the
> President. I believe no apology was issued

Why not ?


> (although statements of
> deep regret were made:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/3/newsid_4678000/4678707.stm
>
> and reparations were made to the victims' survivors ) because none
> was necessary. The Vincennes' actions were all "by the book"

No they weren't.


> and
> all that was needed for the tragedy to have been averted would have
> been for the airliner's pilot to change the airplane's course.

No warning was ever sent to an airliner.

Graham