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From: John Larkin on 8 Oct 2006 19:57 On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:12:29 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>When were Muslims a world power? >>> >> >> google "muslim empire" for the details. > >I assume you are harping on about the Ottoman Empire. Suggesting a google search is hardly harping on, and I mentioned no empire by name. >Now, going back to the question, when were "Muslims" a world power. The >Ottoman empire was a Muslim empire, but not all Muslims were inside the >empire. The statement I was objecting to makes the (sadly common) mistake of >treating "Muslims" as a single entity. So write a letter of complaint to google. John
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 20:03 Ken Smith wrote: > In article <45298B1B.CC24AF11(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > >> >>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes: > >> >> > >> >> >It nicely rebuts the claim that the warning of Pakistan was the > >> >> >reason he [OBL] survived. > >> >> > >> >> That's not the claim (not mine, at least). Just that the warning of > >> >> Pakistan is an indication of lack of seriousness about the whole > >> >> affair. > >> > > >> >What warning ? > >> > >> When Mr. Bill sent missiles to blow up OBL a call was made to Pakistan to > >> let them know that the missiles were not from India. IIRC, the missiles > >> were in flight when the call was made. > > > >And how does that affect the outcome wrt OBL ? > > It didn't. In the fictionalized story they showed on ABC some time back > they had this as a plot element. Much like the rumor being started that > the russians had silent subs after "Hunt or Red October" got published, > some of the plot lines from that story have crept into the culture as > accepted fact. Thanks for that explanation. Graham
From: John Larkin on 8 Oct 2006 20:03 On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 00:36:12 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:29:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje >> <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >Veil seeking missiles serve 2 things: >> >1) The fear for them will keep the veils away and preserve our society. >> >2) It will keep the veils away and preserve our society. >> >> Do you really think that women wearing veils is a threat to your >> society? How fragile that sounds. > >I don't think anyone does actually. It is however a sign of the failure of >some percentage of the Muslim community to integrate into the wider society. > Is a non-homogenous population, where all people don't look just alike, a threat to your society? What about turbans? Yarmulkes? Kilts? Tattoos? Habits? Saris? And more important, how can you define "the wider society" without making it narrow? John
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 20:08 John Larkin wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:29:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje > >> <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Veil seeking missiles serve 2 things: > >> >1) The fear for them will keep the veils away and preserve our society. > >> >2) It will keep the veils away and preserve our society. > >> > >> Do you really think that women wearing veils is a threat to your > >> society? How fragile that sounds. > > > >I don't think anyone does actually. It is however a sign of the failure of > >some percentage of the Muslim community to integrate into the wider society. > > > > Is a non-homogenous population, where all people don't look just > alike, a threat to your society? What about turbans? Yarmulkes? Kilts? > Tattoos? Habits? Saris? Please re-read " I don't think anyone does actually " ! > And more important, how can you define "the wider society" without > making it narrow? How about integrate into 'western' society ? Graham
From: Michael A. Terrell on 8 Oct 2006 21:38
Ken Smith wrote: > > There is a *lot* of bad wine made in California too. When wine making > started to look like a way to make money, everyone and their dog got into > the business. Come on Ken. Everyone knows that dogs don't know "Beans" about grapes. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |