From: Ken Smith on 8 Oct 2006 19:20 In article <4529494D.42D4F596(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > >> In article <eg9dpn$ba4$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net >(Ken Smith) writes: >> >> >It nicely rebuts the claim that the warning of Pakistan was the >reason he [OBL] >> >survived. >> >> That's not the claim (not mine, at least). Just that the warning of >> Pakistan is an indication of lack of seriousness about the whole >> affair. > >What warning ? When Mr. Bill sent missiles to blow up OBL a call was made to Pakistan to let them know that the missiles were not from India. IIRC, the missiles were in flight when the call was made. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 19:32 John Fields wrote: > And, generally, speaking, airliners don't stray miles away from > their flight paths What gave you the idea it had ? > and do respond when contacted by the military. > > To not do so _is_ madness. It did ! Reading a bit more..... " When Carlson [commanding officer of the USS Sides which was nearby] concluded that the Vincennes was referring to IR655 when making its warning to turn away or receive fire ( on a military frequency only - my comment ) he urgently warned IR655 on a civilian freqency that it was in danger, having been mistaken for a military craft and should turn away. IR655 immediately complied and changed course onto a trajectory away from the Vincennes. The Vincennes fired regardless. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655#Independent_sources Graham
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 19:34 Ken Smith wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > >>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes: > >> > >> >It nicely rebuts the claim that the warning of Pakistan was the > >> >reason he [OBL] survived. > >> > >> That's not the claim (not mine, at least). Just that the warning of > >> Pakistan is an indication of lack of seriousness about the whole > >> affair. > > > >What warning ? > > When Mr. Bill sent missiles to blow up OBL a call was made to Pakistan to > let them know that the missiles were not from India. IIRC, the missiles > were in flight when the call was made. And how does that affect the outcome wrt OBL ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 19:36 John Larkin wrote: > On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:29:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje > <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >Veil seeking missiles serve 2 things: > >1) The fear for them will keep the veils away and preserve our society. > >2) It will keep the veils away and preserve our society. > > Do you really think that women wearing veils is a threat to your > society? How fragile that sounds. I don't think anyone does actually. It is however a sign of the failure of some percentage of the Muslim community to integrate into the wider society. Graham
From: Ken Smith on 8 Oct 2006 19:39
In article <45298B1B.CC24AF11(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >> >>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes: >> >> >> >> >It nicely rebuts the claim that the warning of Pakistan was the >> >> >reason he [OBL] survived. >> >> >> >> That's not the claim (not mine, at least). Just that the warning of >> >> Pakistan is an indication of lack of seriousness about the whole >> >> affair. >> > >> >What warning ? >> >> When Mr. Bill sent missiles to blow up OBL a call was made to Pakistan to >> let them know that the missiles were not from India. IIRC, the missiles >> were in flight when the call was made. > >And how does that affect the outcome wrt OBL ? It didn't. In the fictionalized story they showed on ABC some time back they had this as a plot element. Much like the rumor being started that the russians had silent subs after "Hunt or Red October" got published, some of the plot lines from that story have crept into the culture as accepted fact. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |