From: Ken Smith on
In article <4529494D.42D4F596(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
>
>> In article <eg9dpn$ba4$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net
>(Ken Smith) writes:
>>
>> >It nicely rebuts the claim that the warning of Pakistan was the
>reason he [OBL]
>> >survived.
>>
>> That's not the claim (not mine, at least). Just that the warning of
>> Pakistan is an indication of lack of seriousness about the whole
>> affair.
>
>What warning ?

When Mr. Bill sent missiles to blow up OBL a call was made to Pakistan to
let them know that the missiles were not from India. IIRC, the missiles
were in flight when the call was made.

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From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> And, generally, speaking, airliners don't stray miles away from
> their flight paths

What gave you the idea it had ?

> and do respond when contacted by the military.
>
> To not do so _is_ madness.

It did !

Reading a bit more.....

" When Carlson [commanding officer of the USS Sides which was nearby] concluded that
the Vincennes was referring to IR655 when making its warning to turn away or receive
fire ( on a military frequency only - my comment ) he urgently warned IR655 on a
civilian freqency that it was in danger, having been mistaken for a military craft and
should turn away. IR655 immediately complied and changed course onto a trajectory away
from the Vincennes. The Vincennes fired regardless. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655#Independent_sources

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Ken Smith wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
> >>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes:
> >>
> >> >It nicely rebuts the claim that the warning of Pakistan was the
> >> >reason he [OBL] survived.
> >>
> >> That's not the claim (not mine, at least). Just that the warning of
> >> Pakistan is an indication of lack of seriousness about the whole
> >> affair.
> >
> >What warning ?
>
> When Mr. Bill sent missiles to blow up OBL a call was made to Pakistan to
> let them know that the missiles were not from India. IIRC, the missiles
> were in flight when the call was made.

And how does that affect the outcome wrt OBL ?

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:29:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Veil seeking missiles serve 2 things:
> >1) The fear for them will keep the veils away and preserve our society.
> >2) It will keep the veils away and preserve our society.
>
> Do you really think that women wearing veils is a threat to your
> society? How fragile that sounds.

I don't think anyone does actually. It is however a sign of the failure of
some percentage of the Muslim community to integrate into the wider society.

Graham

From: Ken Smith on
In article <45298B1B.CC24AF11(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ken Smith wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
>> >>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes:
>> >>
>> >> >It nicely rebuts the claim that the warning of Pakistan was the
>> >> >reason he [OBL] survived.
>> >>
>> >> That's not the claim (not mine, at least). Just that the warning of
>> >> Pakistan is an indication of lack of seriousness about the whole
>> >> affair.
>> >
>> >What warning ?
>>
>> When Mr. Bill sent missiles to blow up OBL a call was made to Pakistan to
>> let them know that the missiles were not from India. IIRC, the missiles
>> were in flight when the call was made.
>
>And how does that affect the outcome wrt OBL ?

It didn't. In the fictionalized story they showed on ABC some time back
they had this as a plot element. Much like the rumor being started that
the russians had silent subs after "Hunt or Red October" got published,
some of the plot lines from that story have crept into the culture as
accepted fact.

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