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From: lucasea on 8 Oct 2006 22:08 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:GbqdnS_iQ86RYrXYnZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d(a)pipex.net... > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:egaj6a$8qk_003(a)s779.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <Ke2dncVNEMkPSLXYRVnysw(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:egagl2$8ss_007(a)s779.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <5puVg.13906$7I1.7983(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, >>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:eg5eir$8qk_010(a)s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>>> In article <4526343A.24C8CC03(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ISTR that Bin Laden's next goal is to kill 3 million people >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Cite ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have one since I can't access the web. >>>>> >>>>>That's a copout. How about any recollection at all of where you saw >>>>>it, >>>>>so >>>>>others can try to verify? >>>> >>>> The time was around 2004. It was a site that translates that >>>> news issued in Arabian. The essay counted 3,000,000 Arabs >>>> who had been killed by the US since 1500s and 3 million >>>> Americans would have to die to make things equal. >>> >>>I doubt this could be described as an authoritative news source, any more >>>than USENET can be described as an authoritative description of US >>>government policy. >> >> Why do I have to produce the person and the words at the time >> they were made > > You dont. I didn't ask you to. I did, and still do want a citation, since it's such extreme rhetoric that appears to be nothing more than desparate Republican fear-mongering aimed at keeping their jobs. > I simply pointed out there is an error in assuming all the posts made on > websites by Jihadists represent a genuine mindset. That's the point I was trying to make. She seems to be unwilling or unable to critically evaluate the source of the information without applying a severely slanted political filter. And since this issue is the very crux of the terrorism problem, I'd like to critically evaluate them for myself. Like I've said, *my* personal experience is that, to a man/woman, every Muslim I've ever met and conversed with (perhaps a hundred) has given me the impression that Islam is a very peaceful religion, and that while violent, the extremists represent an extreme minority. The rhetoric that she appears to have bought into does seem to be just that--the ranting of a single Jihadist on a website. Hardly a reliable indicator of the extent of the problem. > If I come across a website with an essay from a Christian explaining how > all Muslims should be killed You mean like some of the more extreme points of view in this discussion? > to make the world safer, am I to assume that is an authorative viewpoint? > >> but you can use any random sound extraction >> from any Democrat who is desperately trying to win the election >> in four weeks? > > When have I done this? If I have it wasn't intentional and I apologise. Again, probably me she's referring to. > Even if I have done this though, how does that invalidate what I said? Another smokescreen. The things I've been saying don't lead to the conclusion that we must give up everything in order to save ourselves. I think there's a slightly higher standard for her extremist rhetoric. Eric Lucas Eric Lucas
From: Michael A. Terrell on 8 Oct 2006 22:22 Daniel Mandic wrote: > > Eeyore wrote: > > > Better quality foods ? Stuff like modern hydrogenated fats actually > > *shortens* lives ! What a ridiculous idea. > > > > Graham > > Yes. Ppl become also old in the old time, or medieval. 80 and more. > Of course, mainly by the richer one. > > Some distressing worldwide is welcomely awaited by me. > > Best Regards, > > Daniel Mandic So, the "Demented Donkey" equates hydrogenated oils with Quality? No wonder people think that he's brain dead. :( Quality foods aren't cheap, and use better ingredients. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: lucasea on 8 Oct 2006 22:22 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:rfGdnUpMeZCEmLTYnZ2dnUVZ8sudnZ2d(a)pipex.net... > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:egakki$8qk_001(a)s779.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <hYSdnRmhgOqjdbrYRVny2Q(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eg82da$8qk_005(a)s968.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <udydnWLuFcYHN7vYRVnytQ(a)pipex.net>, >>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>Sorry, aren't you the person who advocated spending billions to get >>>>>Usma >>>>>Bin >>>>>Laden because he _may_ kill more people as opposed to spending billions >>>>>solving the problems which _are_ killing people? >>>> >>>> If the mindset of the religious extremists are not changed and >>>> they become successful in destroying Western civilization, the >>>> problems that _are_ killing people today will no longer exist. >>>> I believe you mentioned those killed in automobile accidents. >>>> Those accidents won't happen because there won't be any autos >>>> on the roads. >>> >>>This is heading far out into the leftfield of logic. It is true there are >>>Islamic extremists who would like to create a Taliban like state out of >>>the >>>western hemisphere. In a similar vein, there are Christian extremists who >>>would like to see an overturn of western decadence. >> >> So far, the Christian extremists are not a global threat..yet. >> But they are watching and learning what tactics and strategies are >> working. > > So from the mess prevention school of thinking we should kill them all now > to prevent the future mess. > > It also the case that living in a Christian country, Christian extremists > are not a threat to _your_ way of life yet. However, Muslims may think > they are. (In fact non-Christians often do think they are). In fact, I think the Christian extremists that are running the political party that is currently in power in this coutry *are* threatening my way of life. They're putting our country in danger by attacking countries that are no threat, and are using Chicken Little tactics to try to convince the American public that we are under such threat that we should hand over our Constitutional rights without question. Terrorists have not remotely threatened my way of life. My own government *has*. >> I have a couple scenarios that can make an >> irrecoverable mess or a middle mess that would take a couple >> hundred years to clean up. I am not going to be specific >> here. I'm not as clever as other people are. If I can think >> of a couple, there has to be lots of opportunities. Yeah, and I can come up with scenarios where little green men from Mars come down to Earth and take away our toaster ovens. I suggest we bomb Mars into oblivion just to make sure they don't. Oh, yes, and every American will be subject to daily household searches just to make sure they're not harboring one of these Martian Extremists, who hate us for our toaster ovens, and want to destroy our society. > I can think of 56 million reasons why an external source couldn't destroy > the UK civilisation. Saying "I can think of ways but I am not going to be > specific" is a bit weak really. It's not just a bit weak. It is phenomenallly paranoid. > Civilisations have been destroyed in the past - I cant think of any which > have fallen as the result of insurgent / terrorist methods. No, but I can think of several that have fallen apart because their government became corrupt and eroded peoples' rights all in the name of keeping power when they should not have been able to. > The west appears to be busy dismantling the things which make Western > Civilisation good. Seems our fears are making us do the work for the > terrorists. Bingo, with Chicken Little's help. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 8 Oct 2006 22:24 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:iq1ji2t66ov05f69i8oamaop8nq107jigb(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:29:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje > <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Veil seeking missiles serve 2 things: >>1) The fear for them will keep the veils away and preserve our society. >>2) It will keep the veils away and preserve our society. >> > > Do you really think that women wearing veils is a threat to your > society? How fragile that sounds. And yet, it is no stranger than assuming that Islam wants to destroy our society. Eric Lucas
From: JoeBloe on 9 Oct 2006 02:01
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:13:14 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us: >Wow. A new insult. Brilliant. Did you spend all weekend trying to come up >with that one or did you over hear some school children like you seem to >have done with all your others. > Again you show your utter stupidity. I posted the response three seconds after I read the retarded bullshit that was spewed by the idiot. |