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From: John Fields on 8 Oct 2006 15:07 On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:57:00 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> If you had your way, everybody would convert to Islam. OK. >> Assume that. > >Let's not assume that at all. > >No-one going to convert to Islam here under duress. How daft can you be to even >imagine such a thing ? > > >> Since the factions are already killing each >> other, what makes you think that they will stop killing and >> murdering and destroying all infrastructure? The goal >> is to destroy Western infrastructure. This means bridges, >> roads, computers, any science results and their applications, >> white collar jobs, blue collar jobs, manufacturing plants, >> food processing plants, etc. > >No it isn't. You're utterly mad. --- That doesn't mean he's wrong, though. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 8 Oct 2006 15:19 On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:57:54 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Fri, 06 Oct 06 11:26:29 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>Our freedoms are under threat as a result of American stupidity. >> > >> >Now I understand you. It is not Bin Laden's fault that he >> >is going to kill a lot of people. It's the Americans' fault >> >that caused Islamic extremists to want to destroy Western >> >civilization. >> >> That's actually true. "American" culture, which is actually world >> culture, is the thing they fear will seduce their sons and liberate >> their daughters. As it must. > >You flatter yourself about the impact of American 'culture'. --- No, you delude yourself about strength of its impact. Do you own a pair of jeans? A cellphone? A PC? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 8 Oct 2006 15:23 On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:11:51 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >The only thing that worries me about the 'state of the world' is what >> >idiocy America's up to next. >> >> --- >> Bullshit. >> >> All you're trying to do is avoid having to account for yourself in a >> way which won't cast you in a bad light. >> >> How much do you weigh? >> >> How much do you make? >> >> How much do you laugh? >> >> Who would you like to see dead? >> >> Are you willing to answer even just _one_ of the questions? > >Why the heck should I ? What's it got to do with anything ? What gives you the >idea you even have any right to ask such intrusive questions ? --- I have the right to ask anything I want to, just as you have the right to be devious. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 8 Oct 2006 15:42 On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:30:34 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jenalyn wrote: > >> "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote >> > "Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote >> > >> >>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? >> >>> >> >> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before >> >> President Bush and the present Republican administration was >> >> involved in any way. >> > >> > But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires >> > international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or >> > unwilling to be involved in. >> >> The international community does not want our cooperation. They want the >> United States to act as their dumb guard dog, do their bidding. > >I'd rather the USA just went back home actually. --- Why? What are you afraid of? --- >> Many >> leaders are generally unhappy with the fact that we finally stepped up to >> take charge. France is unhappy they are no longer a world power. Muslims >> are unhappy they are no longer a world power. > >No Islamic state was ever a world power. --- ??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Larkin on 8 Oct 2006 15:46
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:57:54 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Fri, 06 Oct 06 11:26:29 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>Our freedoms are under threat as a result of American stupidity. >> > >> >Now I understand you. It is not Bin Laden's fault that he >> >is going to kill a lot of people. It's the Americans' fault >> >that caused Islamic extremists to want to destroy Western >> >civilization. >> >> That's actually true. "American" culture, which is actually world >> culture, is the thing they fear will seduce their sons and liberate >> their daughters. As it must. > >You flatter yourself about the impact of American 'culture'. Did I flatter myself? I hadn't noticed. As I said - perhaps you missed it - that American culture is in fact world culture. Most anything that's fun to read, listen to, or eat gets enthusiastically absorbed and amplified here, from Nepalese food to AfroPop to Irish folk music. We are more an intersection of cultures than a driver, although we do make our occasional donations to the pool. This world culture is what many regionalists fear will destroy their own culture - as it will - and many call it "American", which it really isn't. When I was in Japan, I was appalled at how much they were trying to be Western at the expense of their own very beautiful culture. They think that bad English signage is cool, and that bad French fashion is elegant. Imagine a men's toilet in a fancy hotel, with the walls entirely done in YSL-monogrammed ceramic tiles. John |