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From: John Larkin on 8 Oct 2006 16:09 On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 02:40:14 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:qm9gi297oamqd9flmtc4291edbfh6k9e2n(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:13:25 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> >>>> I give up--I was wrong. You weren't sincere when you said you examine >>>> your >>>> assumptions. You don't even admit what assumptions you make, and what >>>> political filter you put information through. You're no worse than the >>>> other knee-jerk reactionaries on either side of this thread. If you are >>>> the >>>> future of the political process in this country, we are in real trouble. >>>> >>>> Just a hint, though...you might want to try having conversations with >>>> actual >>>> mainstream Middle Eastern Muslims, rather than reading some right-wing >>>> claptrap written to justify the US's current bad behavior and applying >>>> it to >>>> all of Muslim society. >>> >>>The problem is that the above kind of thought is now being branded as >>>traitorous >>>in the USA. >> >> --- >> Really? >> >> Can you cite some examples or is that just some more of your >> Ameriphobia? > >Bush. Rumsfeld. Need any more? > You are accusing people of saying things, without citations, and then wailing about how bad they are to say them. How clever of you. John
From: Daniel Mandic on 8 Oct 2006 16:09 Eeyore wrote: > No Islamic state was ever a world power. > > Graham Hmmm, when you do not count the Turks into, yes. Best regards, Daniel Mandic
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 16:12 John Fields wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> If you had your way, everybody would convert to Islam. OK. > >> Assume that. > > > >Let's not assume that at all. > > > >No-one going to convert to Islam here under duress. How daft can you be to even > >imagine such a thing ? > > > > > >> Since the factions are already killing each > >> other, what makes you think that they will stop killing and > >> murdering and destroying all infrastructure? The goal > >> is to destroy Western infrastructure. This means bridges, > >> roads, computers, any science results and their applications, > >> white collar jobs, blue collar jobs, manufacturing plants, > >> food processing plants, etc. > > > >No it isn't. You're utterly mad. > > --- > That doesn't mean he's wrong, though. He assuredly is along with anyone else who believes in this phantom menace. Graham
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 16:13 John Fields wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Fri, 06 Oct 06 11:26:29 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > >> >>Our freedoms are under threat as a result of American stupidity. > >> > > >> >Now I understand you. It is not Bin Laden's fault that he > >> >is going to kill a lot of people. It's the Americans' fault > >> >that caused Islamic extremists to want to destroy Western > >> >civilization. > >> > >> That's actually true. "American" culture, which is actually world > >> culture, is the thing they fear will seduce their sons and liberate > >> their daughters. As it must. > > > >You flatter yourself about the impact of American 'culture'. > > --- > No, you delude yourself about strength of its impact. > > Do you own a pair of jeans? A cellphone? A PC? What have they to do with America culture ? Do you fly by jet airliner ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 8 Oct 2006 16:16
John Larkin wrote: > Eeyore<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >You flatter yourself about the impact of American 'culture'. > > Did I flatter myself? I hadn't noticed. > > As I said - perhaps you missed it - that American culture is in fact > world culture. Most anything that's fun to read, listen to, or eat > gets enthusiastically absorbed and amplified here, from Nepalese food > to AfroPop to Irish folk music. We are more an intersection of > cultures than a driver, although we do make our occasional donations > to the pool. This world culture is what many regionalists fear will > destroy their own culture - as it will - and many call it "American", > which it really isn't. This isn't a uniquely American phenomenon. Graham |