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From: T Wake on 8 Oct 2006 18:12 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:fulii2prli1b60siat1m6q150p94prmefv(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 10:07:55 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> >>"jenalyn" <nospam(a)houston.rr.com> wrote in message >>news:GnEVg.43721$DU3.24861(a)tornado.texas.rr.com... >>> "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >>> news:K4XTg.7154$N4.5515(a)clgrps12... >>>> >>>> "Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message >>>> news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i(a)4ax.com... >>>> >>>>>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? >>>>>> >>>>> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before >>>>> President Bush and the present Republican administration was >>>>> involved in any way. >>>> >>>> But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires >>>> international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or >>>> unwilling to be involved in. >>> >>> The international community does not want our cooperation. They want >>> the >>> United States to act as their dumb guard dog, do their bidding. Many >>> leaders are generally unhappy with the fact that we finally stepped up >>> to >>> take charge. France is unhappy they are no longer a world power. >>> Muslims >>> are unhappy they are no longer a world power. >> >>When were Muslims a world power? >> > > google "muslim empire" for the details. I assume you are harping on about the Ottoman Empire. At its height towards then of the seventeenth century, this does provide a good example. It was a scientifically advanced, inclusive society, certainly by the standards of the day. The Sultans took it upon themselves to serve the state rather than their God. Given this was the last time Islam had a world power it seems not that bad. Their behaviour was certainly on a par with the other world powers of the time. Now, going back to the question, when were "Muslims" a world power. The Ottoman empire was a Muslim empire, but not all Muslims were inside the empire. The statement I was objecting to makes the (sadly common) mistake of treating "Muslims" as a single entity. The Arabs who people tend to associate with Muslims were not the power owners in the Ottoman Empire.
From: T Wake on 8 Oct 2006 18:13 "JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message news:e5mii2lk999fcil32t1rtv0ad6qfnrjhdj(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 02:32:42 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us: > >> >>> "JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message >>> news:780gi25ruponn590krd8cgvvt9p3catitk(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:13:31 +0100, "T Wake" >>>> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us: >>>> >>>>>It is ok, it was an imaginary elephant. In the real world, imaginary >>>>>things >>>>>cant hurt you. As an aside, I know what imaginary numbers *are* and I >>>>>also >>>>>know there is no way *you* are juggling them. >>>> >>>> I say again. You *know* nothing. >> >>Repetitive sycophant. > > The void between your ears is astounding. Wow. A new insult. Brilliant. Did you spend all weekend trying to come up with that one or did you over hear some school children like you seem to have done with all your others.
From: John Larkin on 8 Oct 2006 18:25 On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:16:20 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> Eeyore<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >You flatter yourself about the impact of American 'culture'. >> >> Did I flatter myself? I hadn't noticed. >> >> As I said - perhaps you missed it - that American culture is in fact >> world culture. Most anything that's fun to read, listen to, or eat >> gets enthusiastically absorbed and amplified here, from Nepalese food >> to AfroPop to Irish folk music. We are more an intersection of >> cultures than a driver, although we do make our occasional donations >> to the pool. This world culture is what many regionalists fear will >> destroy their own culture - as it will - and many call it "American", >> which it really isn't. > >This isn't a uniquely American phenomenon. > Gosh, that's brilliant! We should call it something worthy of your insight... "world culture" perhaps? John
From: John Larkin on 8 Oct 2006 18:28 On Sun, 08 Oct 06 09:28:30 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <3euci2dd3t4o9t2qm6829q55uknrm3hu62(a)4ax.com>, > John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>On Fri, 06 Oct 06 11:26:29 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>>Our freedoms are under threat as a result of American stupidity. >>> >>>Now I understand you. It is not Bin Laden's fault that he >>>is going to kill a lot of people. It's the Americans' fault >>>that caused Islamic extremists to want to destroy Western >>>civilization. >> >>That's actually true. "American" culture, which is actually world >>culture, is the thing they fear will seduce their sons and liberate >>their daughters. As it must. > >I call that Western Civilization, not American culture. > >/BAH World culture is real, but it's not exclusively Western. And America usually gets blamed for it. John
From: John Larkin on 8 Oct 2006 18:30
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:13:18 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >What have they to do with America culture ? > >Do you fly by jet airliner ? > Are you referring to jets that explode in mid-air, or to jets that don't? I prefer the latter. John |