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From: Alan Baker on 4 Aug 2010 20:52 In article <Xns9DCAD0F8422FAnoonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13>, Larry <noone(a)home.com> wrote: > Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in news:alangbaker- > E22D8B.10035004082010(a)news.shawcable.com: > > >> How much is Jobs paying you to defend the company? > > > > How much are you being paid to malign it? Because whoever is doing it > > should get a refund. Referencing the same lawsuit over and over doesn't > > make it any more evidence of an actual problem. > > > > > > So, how much is Jobs paying you to defend the company? Who's paying you to malign it? They should get a refund. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 4 Aug 2010 20:53 In article <Xns9DCAD175DA92noonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13>, Larry <noone(a)home.com> wrote: > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in news:040820101024426041% > nospam(a)nospam.invalid: > > > where are the thermal tests? how hot does it get? at what temperature > > is the warning given? what *is* it's real world operating temperature > > limits? > > > > oh right, you don't have any *actual* evidence, just more idiocy. > > > > > > I'm sure it will all be duly noted in the court records..... I'm sure it will. And when it comes to nothing -- as all these suits have, you'll have slunk off... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: John Slade on 4 Aug 2010 20:57 On 7/29/2010 6:11 AM, SMS wrote: > News wrote: >> John Navas wrote: >>> Apple's iPad can shut down if it gets too hot, and Jacob Baltazar, >>> Claudia Keller, and John Browning are as mad as hell and aren't going to >>> take it anymore. >>> >>> Those unhappy iPadders have filed suit against Apple � and they're >>> asking the court to elevate their claim to class-action status. >>> >>> Their lawsuit, filed in the US District Court, Northern District of >>> California, alleges that "the iPad overheats so quickly under common >>> weather conditions that it does not function for prolonged use either >>> outdoors, or in many other warm conditions." >>> >>> ... >> >> >> So what's the problem? Makes a great coffee cup warmer. >> > > I worked on the Microsoft Tablet reference design and the Compaq TC1000 > tablet. The thermal engineering was very difficult, much more so than a > laptop. It has to work in both orientations, it has to be cool enough to > hold comfortably, and it has to be quiet. The initial goal was not to > have a fan, but there was no way to cool it under all possible > circumstances without the occasional use of a fan, unless we lowered the > processor speed to a level where the performance was severely impacted. > It was a much thicker tablet with more vent holes than the iPad. When I > saw the iPad I was impressed that they had been able to design it as > they had and still been able to deal with all the thermal issues. > > There are software workarounds for thermal issues. You run the processor > slower as the temperature goes up. It's not ideal, but it will work. > Probably the thermal profiles need to be tuned to prevent these shutdowns. To me this is yet another clear cut case where a device has been produced without allowing technology to catch up. There should be no compromises for using an iPad or any tablet/netbook in sunlight. They should have tested it in the sunlight. They could have made it thicker with better cooling. But no, they wanted thin and cute rather than a little thicker and practical. John
From: Who Dat? on 4 Aug 2010 21:00 On 8/4/2010 8:53 PM, Alan Baker wrote: > In article<Xns9DCAD175DA92noonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13>, > Larry<noone(a)home.com> wrote: > >> nospam<nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in news:040820101024426041% >> nospam(a)nospam.invalid: >> >>> where are the thermal tests? how hot does it get? at what temperature >>> is the warning given? what *is* it's real world operating temperature >>> limits? >>> >>> oh right, you don't have any *actual* evidence, just more idiocy. >>> >>> >> >> I'm sure it will all be duly noted in the court records..... > > I'm sure it will. > > And when it comes to nothing -- as all these suits have, you'll have > slunk off... > You obviously don't know Larry.... or "jack".
From: Alan Baker on 4 Aug 2010 21:03
In article <90o6o.49749$xZ2.44301(a)newsfe07.iad>, John Slade <hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> wrote: > On 7/29/2010 6:11 AM, SMS wrote: > > News wrote: > >> John Navas wrote: > >>> Apple's iPad can shut down if it gets too hot, and Jacob Baltazar, > >>> Claudia Keller, and John Browning are as mad as hell and aren't going to > >>> take it anymore. > >>> > >>> Those unhappy iPadders have filed suit against Apple � and they're > >>> asking the court to elevate their claim to class-action status. > >>> > >>> Their lawsuit, filed in the US District Court, Northern District of > >>> California, alleges that "the iPad overheats so quickly under common > >>> weather conditions that it does not function for prolonged use either > >>> outdoors, or in many other warm conditions." > >>> > >>> ... > >> > >> > >> So what's the problem? Makes a great coffee cup warmer. > >> > > > > I worked on the Microsoft Tablet reference design and the Compaq TC1000 > > tablet. The thermal engineering was very difficult, much more so than a > > laptop. It has to work in both orientations, it has to be cool enough to > > hold comfortably, and it has to be quiet. The initial goal was not to > > have a fan, but there was no way to cool it under all possible > > circumstances without the occasional use of a fan, unless we lowered the > > processor speed to a level where the performance was severely impacted. > > It was a much thicker tablet with more vent holes than the iPad. When I > > saw the iPad I was impressed that they had been able to design it as > > they had and still been able to deal with all the thermal issues. > > > > There are software workarounds for thermal issues. You run the processor > > slower as the temperature goes up. It's not ideal, but it will work. > > Probably the thermal profiles need to be tuned to prevent these shutdowns. > > To me this is yet another clear cut case where a device has > been produced without allowing technology to catch up. There > should be no compromises for using an iPad or any tablet/netbook > in sunlight. They should have tested it in the sunlight. They > could have made it thicker with better cooling. But no, they > wanted thin and cute rather than a little thicker and practical. > > John How would making it thicker have given it better cooling? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |