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From: Alan Baker on 4 Aug 2010 21:29 In article <Rgo6o.63590$0A5.62606(a)newsfe22.iad>, Todd Allcock <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: > At 04 Aug 2010 10:24:42 -0700 nospam wrote: > > In article <Xns9DCA81EDF5279noonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13>, Larry > > <noone(a)home.com> wrote: > > > > > Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in news:alangbaker- > > > AEFBA1.13232503082010(a)news.shawcable.com: > > > > > > > Can you show that iPads have the alleged issue? > > > > > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20011873-260.html > > > > > > http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/07/class-action-lawsuit-filed- > > > over-overheating-ipads.ars > > > > links for lawsuits snipped. > > > > > > where are the thermal tests? how hot does it get? at what temperature > > is the warning given? what *is* it's real world operating temperature > > limits? > > > > oh right, you don't have any *actual* evidence, just more idiocy. > > > Well, to be fair, when Anandtech served up similar tests for the iPhone 4 > death grip issue you dismissed them with an "all phones do that," so why > would we assume you'd treat any third-party thermal tests any > differently. I'm sure Steve will serve up videos of other computers > shutting down after 15 minutes in a slow oven as proof that this too is a > non-issue... ;) You do realize that the whole antenna issue is looking more and more like the non-issue that some of us said it was... ....right? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Who Dat? on 4 Aug 2010 21:43 On 8/4/2010 9:29 PM, Alan Baker wrote: > In article<Rgo6o.63590$0A5.62606(a)newsfe22.iad>, > Todd Allcock<elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: > >> At 04 Aug 2010 10:24:42 -0700 nospam wrote: >>> In article<Xns9DCA81EDF5279noonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13>, Larry >>> <noone(a)home.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Alan Baker<alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in news:alangbaker- >>>> AEFBA1.13232503082010(a)news.shawcable.com: >>>> >>>>> Can you show that iPads have the alleged issue? >>>> >>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20011873-260.html >>>> >>>> http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/07/class-action-lawsuit-filed- >>>> over-overheating-ipads.ars >>> >>> links for lawsuits snipped. >>> >>> >>> where are the thermal tests? how hot does it get? at what temperature >>> is the warning given? what *is* it's real world operating temperature >>> limits? >>> >>> oh right, you don't have any *actual* evidence, just more idiocy. >> >> >> Well, to be fair, when Anandtech served up similar tests for the iPhone 4 >> death grip issue you dismissed them with an "all phones do that," so why >> would we assume you'd treat any third-party thermal tests any >> differently. I'm sure Steve will serve up videos of other computers >> shutting down after 15 minutes in a slow oven as proof that this too is a >> non-issue... ;) > > You do realize that the whole antenna issue is looking more and more > like the non-issue that some of us said it was... > > > ...right? > Once it wears its raincoat, sure, whatever.
From: John Navas on 4 Aug 2010 22:54 On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:29:33 -0700, in <alangbaker-79D810.18293304082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >In article <Rgo6o.63590$0A5.62606(a)newsfe22.iad>, > Todd Allcock <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: >> Well, to be fair, when Anandtech served up similar tests for the iPhone 4 >> death grip issue you dismissed them with an "all phones do that," so why >> would we assume you'd treat any third-party thermal tests any >> differently. I'm sure Steve will serve up videos of other computers >> shutting down after 15 minutes in a slow oven as proof that this too is a >> non-issue... ;) > >You do realize that the whole antenna issue is looking more and more >like the non-issue that some of us said it was... > >...right? On the contrary -- see data from Jeff and the citation I posted. -- John "Facts? We ain't got no facts. We don't need no facts. I don't have to show you any stinking facts!" [with apologies to John Huston]
From: John Navas on 4 Aug 2010 22:56 On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:03:35 -0700, in <alangbaker-9DD5D2.18033504082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >In article <90o6o.49749$xZ2.44301(a)newsfe07.iad>, > John Slade <hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> wrote: >> To me this is yet another clear cut case where a device has >> been produced without allowing technology to catch up. There >> should be no compromises for using an iPad or any tablet/netbook >> in sunlight. They should have tested it in the sunlight. They >> could have made it thicker with better cooling. But no, they >> wanted thin and cute rather than a little thicker and practical. > >How would making it thicker have given it better cooling? Less thermal energy per unit of volume. Physical shrink of a device with the same components tends to exacerbate thermal problems. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Jeff Liebermann on 4 Aug 2010 23:06
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:29:33 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >You do realize that the whole antenna issue is looking more and more >like the non-issue that some of us said it was... See: <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/cellular/cell-test.htm> >...right? Nope. The iPhone 4 is at least between 6 and 18 times more affected by touching the antenna than the worst conventional cell phone I tested. Double that again for the typical cell phone. It's not a problem in strong signal areas, but might drop the call in a weak signal area. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |