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From: ZnU on 10 Aug 2010 22:47 In article <015ea3da-8433-45c8-b268-5ca5cee4db01(a)g33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, KDT <scarface_74(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 10, 6:15�pm, ZnU <z...(a)fake.invalid> wrote: > > > > With Sprint as well, for tethering and data-only plans. Sprint will > > basically only give you uncapped data to a handset, because they know > > it's really hard to actually use it there. > > > > The 4G tethering plans (HTC Evo and soon Samsung) are unlimited 3G/4G. Are they? Sprint's standalone "4G/3G Mobile Broadband Connection Plan" is unlimited 4G but 3G is capped at 5 GB. Which would be fine except that 4G is in so few markets. (Still nothing in NYC, for instance.) And I suspect they're only offering unlimited 4G right now because their "4G" network doesn't have a lot of users yet; as they start to run out of bandwidth, that deal will go away. -- "The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
From: ZnU on 10 Aug 2010 22:49 In article <uh0466tftb0j5dvu6en5v59jja9vnchs2p(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:44:15 -0700 (PDT), in > <710b642d-0b93-43a6-a3c1-c681d112bcc8(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, KDT > <scarface_74(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >On Aug 5, 7:52�pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:21:34 -0500, in > >> <lloydparsons-CEA3F6.15213405082...(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd Parsons > > >> >As to Android, yes they are selling lots these days, but the numbers are > >> >still small compared to the number of active iPhones, > >> > >> Depends on your definition of "small" -- 8.7 million Android handsets > >> here in the U.S. compared with 10.7 million iPhones according to > >> Quantcast. > >> > >> >and it is spread > >> >among providers. > >> > >> True, but Android phones on AT&T <http://goo.gl/EyTr> aren't generating > >> complaints the way iPhone has and still is. > > >Who is actually buying an Android device on AT&T? The Motorala > >devices haven't exactly been breaking records. > > "Is AT&T Selling Weak Android Phones to Make iPhone 4 Look Better?" > <http://goo.gl/C8HG> Didn't you spend a couple of days arguing that _all_ Android phones where "in the same class" as the iPhone? -- "The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
From: KDT on 10 Aug 2010 23:07 On Aug 10, 10:47 pm, ZnU <z...(a)fake.invalid> wrote: > In article > <015ea3da-8433-45c8-b268-5ca5cee4d...(a)g33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, > > KDT <scarface...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > On Aug 10, 6:15 pm, ZnU <z...(a)fake.invalid> wrote: > > > > With Sprint as well, for tethering and data-only plans. Sprint will > > > basically only give you uncapped data to a handset, because they know > > > it's really hard to actually use it there. > > > The 4G tethering plans (HTC Evo and soon Samsung) are unlimited 3G/4G. > > Are they? Sprint's standalone "4G/3G Mobile Broadband Connection Plan" > is unlimited 4G but 3G is capped at 5 GB. Which would be fine except > that 4G is in so few markets. (Still nothing in NYC, for instance.) Strangely enough, 3G is unlimited only on their tethering plan with the 4G phones. http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206753 Is there a cap on data usage with the HTC EVO 4G? Device and Sprint Mobile Hotspot data usage* limitations are as follows: Data usage is unlimited while on the 3G or 4G Sprint network. Off-network data roaming is subject to a 300MB data usage limitation. > > And I suspect they're only offering unlimited 4G right now because their > "4G" network doesn't have a lot of users yet; as they start to run out > of bandwidth, that deal will go away. Clear (Sprint's 4G partner) has a lot more spectrum available than your typical mobile operator. Clear is marketing their 4G as a replacement for DSL/cable.
From: DevilsPGD on 10 Aug 2010 23:36 In message <ves366532n1hpgfaqf5a8hpa76usv0l50k(a)4ax.com> John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> was claimed to have wrote: >On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:12:45 -0700, in ><r6n366lo0472ig5l466pj333096lv61ptj(a)4ax.com>, DevilsPGD ><Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage(a)crazyhat.net> wrote: > >>If he's talking about bare antennas, iPhone 4 is the only one doing >>this. > >He was talking "case", not external antenna, but there were in fact many >phones with external antennas, starting with the iconic Motorola brick >phone, and including my beloved Ericsson T39m, and none of them had a >similar issue to the iPhone with touching the antenna, so the basic >argument is meaningless regardless. Most (if not all?) of those phones placed the antenna in a location other than where a user's hand grips the phone in regular use, so the point is relatively moot. Beyond that, I don't recall too many with bare antennas. The Ericsson T39m, for example, has a plastic cap (read: a case) over the antenna: http://www.mobilmania.cz/Files/Obrazky/art19/EricssonT39m/O/04.jpg
From: John Navas on 10 Aug 2010 23:48
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:36:45 -0700, in <1h6466lf3q6kbap87cvcm697tkjthu5b10(a)4ax.com>, DevilsPGD <Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage(a)crazyhat.net> wrote: >In message <ves366532n1hpgfaqf5a8hpa76usv0l50k(a)4ax.com> John Navas ><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> was claimed to have wrote: > >>On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:12:45 -0700, in >><r6n366lo0472ig5l466pj333096lv61ptj(a)4ax.com>, DevilsPGD >><Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-Cage(a)crazyhat.net> wrote: >> >>>If he's talking about bare antennas, iPhone 4 is the only one doing >>>this. >> >>He was talking "case", not external antenna, but there were in fact many >>phones with external antennas, starting with the iconic Motorola brick >>phone, and including my beloved Ericsson T39m, and none of them had a >>similar issue to the iPhone with touching the antenna, so the basic >>argument is meaningless regardless. > >Most (if not all?) of those phones placed the antenna in a location >other than where a user's hand grips the phone in regular use, so the >point is relatively moot. > >Beyond that, I don't recall too many with bare antennas. The Ericsson >T39m, for example, has a plastic cap (read: a case) over the antenna: > >http://www.mobilmania.cz/Files/Obrazky/art19/EricssonT39m/O/04.jpg An optional extendable antenna (Ericsson IAT-10) was available for the T39m. Looked and worked almost the same as the standard stubby when retracted. Outperformed every other cell phones I've owned when extended. (Can't find a picture, sorry.) -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement] |