From: John Navas on
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:10:33 -0700 (PDT), in
<3e777661-5f90-48b1-be4e-9bf8dcdbd133(a)5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>, KDT
<scarface_74(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 9:49�pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

>> >http://larvalabs.com/blog/android/android-market-payouts-total-2-of-a...
>>
>> That's money, not apps. �Far more Android apps are free than iPhone
>> apps. �And Verizon Android users consume more data than iPhone users:
>> <http://goo.gl/BmBi>

>So do you really think major developers are going to invest real money
>in *quality* apps for the Android with that kind of payout?

I do, especially since the ranks of Android developers, of all levels,
are swelling rapid.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: John Navas on
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:05:53 -0700 (PDT), in
<02fb76ae-5250-46dc-afc9-92a1771959ee(a)p7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, KDT
<scarface_74(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 9:55�pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:50:37 -0700 (PDT), in
>> <a7f99870-11a3-46d0-86a3-21cad810b...(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, KDT
>>
>> <scarface...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 8, 11:53�am, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:34:21 -0400, in
>> >> >In the long run, a platform which actually allows professional
>> >> >developers to make money from their apps is going to get much better
>> >> >apps.
>>
>> >> Available evidence suggests otherwise; e.g.,
>> >> <http://www.gomonews.com/android-go-boom-mobile-analytics-points-to-ex...>
>>
>> >Development by *hobbyist* where are the professional apps?
>>
>> They are there too, although I personally don't care where good apps
>> come from -- by far the best sailboat racing app on any mobile platform
>> was written by a "hobbyist" sailboat racer, not a professional.
>
>Where? Have you compared the top apps on the Android Market and on the
>Apple App store?

I have.

>I have an HTC Hero and an iPod Touch. The
>difference in the quality of the top apps aren't even comparable.

That's not what I'm seeing. Got any specifics?

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: nospam on
In article <b2a466d7gg60jpnsas8qhl738vuhuvijdt(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >Where? Have you compared the top apps on the Android Market and on the
> >Apple App store?
>
> I have.

on the iphone you don't own?
From: ZnU on
In article <090820102307276010%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jnp166h3bn92aqnecgr0luki3g48gisuuu(a)4ax.com>, Jeff
> Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:

[snip]

> > Apple covered its posterior by making a Wi-Fi only version. The sales
> > breakdown between the two models might offer a clue as to how
> > important this data plan was to consumers. I only know 4 iPad owners.
> > All of them have the more expensive version with the 3G data modem.
> > However, only one subscribes to the AT&T data plan and she bought the
> > $15 cheapo version. I've asked about the logic behind paying for
> > something they're not using and get something about "playing it safe"
> > and the internal GPS.
>
> the gps is extremely useful, and having a 'just in case' 3g pay as you
> go data capability is very compelling. the wifi-only version likely
> exists only to hit a price point, or for those who plan on using the
> ipad only at home or office where there is always wifi.

An important point here is that not only is the 3G month-to-month, but
you can activate it directly on the device over the 3G network. (At
least in the US, where iPads all ship with AT&T SIM cards already in
them. Don't know how they're doing it in other countries.)

This makes 3G really handy as a "just in case" sort of feature -- even
if you haven't activated it, you have pretty much immediate access to it
should you ever find yourself needing it.

--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
From: ZnU on
In article
<163a9b72-3640-4adc-b349-7394a52819b6(a)c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
KDT <scarface_74(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Aug 10, 10:47�pm, ZnU <z...(a)fake.invalid> wrote:
> > In article
> > <015ea3da-8433-45c8-b268-5ca5cee4d...(a)g33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �KDT <scarface...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 10, 6:15�pm, ZnU <z...(a)fake.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > > With Sprint as well, for tethering and data-only plans. Sprint will
> > > > basically only give you uncapped data to a handset, because they know
> > > > it's really hard to actually use it there.
> >
> > > The 4G tethering plans (HTC Evo and soon Samsung) are unlimited 3G/4G.
> >
> > Are they? Sprint's standalone "4G/3G Mobile Broadband Connection Plan"
> > is unlimited 4G but 3G is capped at 5 GB. Which would be fine except
> > that 4G is in so few markets. (Still nothing in NYC, for instance.)
>
> Strangely enough, 3G is unlimited only on their tethering plan with
> the 4G phones.
>
> http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206753
>
> Is there a cap on data usage with the HTC EVO 4G?
>
> Device and Sprint Mobile Hotspot data usage* limitations
> are as follows:
> � Data usage is unlimited while on the 3G or 4G Sprint
> network.
> � Off-network data roaming is subject to a 300MB data
> usage limitation.

Interesting. And very strange.

Of course, the more labyrinthine you and Ed make the US system look as
you're pointing out ways to save money, the more it sort of validates
Sandman's point that the US cellular market is pretty fucked up.

> > And I suspect they're only offering unlimited 4G right now because their
> > "4G" network doesn't have a lot of users yet; as they start to run out
> > of bandwidth, that deal will go away.
>
> Clear (Sprint's 4G partner) has a lot more spectrum available than
> your typical mobile operator. Clear is marketing their 4G as a
> replacement for DSL/cable.

So they seem determined to run out of bandwidth as fast as possible,
then....

--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes