Question re Canon iP1500
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From: zakezuke on 15 Apr 2006 23:37 >And you can feel no shame in accepting a replacement as > they don't actually tell the users how to peform any service what so > ever, and average joe user without the magic sequence of pokes would > be > printerless without shelling out the bucks for service which tends to > cost about the same as a cheepo printer. > You lost me here!. I don't get the connection with my getting a refurb > printer and them not telling users hwo to perform any service? why would > I need to know about service for a refurb printer? Printers require routine maintance. But rather than offer a maintance manual the printers just stop working till someone with the key presses knows the formula to say ok it's been done, or in most cases... just print damnit. The referb printer at somepoint will get a full diaper, well unless the head goes first, which ever... in that even you either need 1. The service button presses 2. Service which costs more than the printer 3. Another printer *This* is what I was describing, not giving the user the option to service the printer them selves. It's as if you had a car that would not work if you didn't for example change the tranny fluid, or worse yet, require a special key to change the tranny fluid. It's the difference between something that is serviceable and disposable. While technicaly your printer is in the disposable class, it is serviceable, you just need to know how to tell the printer it's been serviced, I.e. got a new diaper.
From: Mary on 15 Apr 2006 23:57 "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1145158620.041820.287370(a)v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > >And you can feel no shame in accepting a replacement as > > they don't actually tell the users how to peform any service what so > > ever, and average joe user without the magic sequence of pokes would > > be > > printerless without shelling out the bucks for service which tends to > > cost about the same as a cheepo printer. > > > You lost me here!. I don't get the connection with my getting a refurb > > printer and them not telling users hwo to perform any service? why would > > I need to know about service for a refurb printer? > > Printers require routine maintance. But rather than offer a maintance > manual the printers just stop working till someone with the key presses > knows the formula to say ok it's been done, or in most cases... just > print damnit. So you are commenting that I have an advantage by knowing how to reset the ip1500 so that if it happens again I will know what to do? that still doesn't help me if the waste tank becomes full and disables the printer. The end result is I will need another printer. > The referb printer at somepoint will get a full diaper, well unless the > head goes first, which ever... in that even you either need > > 1. The service button presses > 2. Service which costs more than the printer > 3. Another printer In that case, I would try resetting, or buy another printer and if I buy one within a year, it will be under Staples warranty. If over that time, I will be on my own. > *This* is what I was describing, not giving the user the option to > service the printer them selves. It's as if you had a car that would > not work if you didn't for example change the tranny fluid, or worse > yet, require a special key to change the tranny fluid. > > It's the difference between something that is serviceable and > disposable. While technicaly your printer is in the disposable class, > it is serviceable, you just need to know how to tell the printer it's > been serviced, I.e. got a new diaper. My present printer is serviceable at this moment, but could become NOT serviceable at any time since there is now way to know how much ink is in the waste absorber. And even though its been reset and telling it that it has a new diaper, that doesn't solve the problem which causes the error in the first place. Its still there physically. Resetting just buys you time and you can either wait till it overflows or buy a new printer, for eventually its going to show full instead of almost full. Thats my understanding from various people, including the Canon tech. He said the error will not go away and the printer needs to be replaced as it will get worse as time goes by. By the way, I can't see how Canon are making any money on my printer. I think its costing them by having to supply a new printhead worth $50.00 and having to send a refurb printer and taking back my printer which is out of production and only someone in my position might need it but most people just buy new printers and many people just see a printer an dont think how much carts are and just buy it. Mary
From: measekite on 16 Apr 2006 00:12 YOU MEAN THERE IS MORE. I DO NOT EVEN READ THIS STUFF. Mary wrote: >"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > >>But yes, congrats. That's the trouble with troubleshooting, you must >>begin with having no clue and try things in an orderly fashion and >>eventually you get it. Now youll get a new printer which might by any >>one of three reset procedures which you don't have to worry about for >>many moons. >> >> > >It was due to your messages and the link you gave me which I read last >night that led me to the reset. I was working my way back on messages >when I saw your earlier messages with the keystroke steps that gave me >the information to try the reset. I didn't think it would work and thats >why I tried it . :) So thanks (I think) even just for the fact that I >finally figured it out. > >Mary > > >
From: measekite on 16 Apr 2006 00:12 Mary wrote: >"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:1145141628.606251.141250(a)e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > >>Burt wrote: >> >> >>>"Mary" <nonon(a)nothin.com> wrote in message >>>news:44415b10$0$14498$6d36acad(a)titian.nntpserver.com... >>> >>> >>>>"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>>Zak, I was able to reset the ip1500 last night using keystrokes >>>> >>>> >you gave > > >>>>me from a message you posted on Apr. 11 (see below). I was shocked >>>> >>>> >that > > >>>>it worked, now that it doesn't matter and I didn't really want it >>>> >>>> >to. I > > >>>>didn't think it would >>>>work as I had tried the keystrokes you posted on Apr. 4 which were >>>> >>>> >a bit > > >>>>different because they involved the RESUME button.. >>>> >>>> > > > >>But yes, congrats. That's the trouble with troubleshooting, you must >>begin with having no clue and try things in an orderly fashion and >>eventually you get it. >> >> > >Yes,its like elimination and trial and error and now that I got it, its >too late. Well not too late, but I might have kept my own printer if I >had gotten it reset before, but if I get the refurb one, at least it >should have no waste ink problems at all and mine obvious does. Exactly >how bad it is, no way to know, but the problem is there. > > > >>Now youll get a new printer which might by any >>one of three reset procedures which you don't have to worry about for >>many moons. >> >> > >At least I will know if this ever happens again, but I hope it doesn't >as I wouldn't say its exactly a good sign. Resetting is fine, but you >don't know when or if the problem will get worse. > > > >>And you can feel no shame in accepting a replacement as >>they don't actually tell the users how to peform any service what so >>ever, and average joe user without the magic sequence of pokes would >> >> >be > > >>printerless without shelling out the bucks for service which tends to >>cost about the same as a cheepo printer. >> >> > >You lost me here!. > THAT WOULD BE GOOD. OCD RIDES AGAIN >I don't get the connection with my getting a refurb >printer and them not telling users hwo to perform any service? why would >I need to know about service for a refurb printer? > >Mary > > >
From: measekite on 16 Apr 2006 00:14
Mary wrote: >"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message >news:kue0g.59918$F_3.43031(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > >>"Mary" <nonon(a)nothin.com> wrote in message >>news:44415b10$0$14498$6d36acad(a)titian.nntpserver.com... >> >> >>>"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> >>>Zak, I was able to reset the ip1500 last night using keystrokes you >>> >>> >gave > > >>>me from a message you posted on Apr. 11 (see below). I was shocked >>> >>> >that > > >>>it worked, now that it doesn't matter and I didn't really want it >>> >>> >to. I > > >>>didn't think it would >>>work as I had tried the keystrokes you posted on Apr. 4 which were a >>> >>> >bit > > >>>different because they involved the RESUME button.. >>> >>> >>> >>(snip). >> >> >>>Mary >>> >>> >>> >>Congratulations, Mary! You are now a full fledged printer repair >> >> >person. > >And ready to hang out my shingle :) Actually, it was so easy that I >didn't expect it to work after struggling with many frustrating >attempts.I was pretty surprised.Maybe it was because I wasn't really >trying. > > NOW WE CAN POST OTHER ITEMSLIKE WHY CANON INK IS CONSISTENT AND RELIABLE > > >>What you've described is typical of so many things about computers. >>Everything has to be done right, down to the period, comma, space, >> >> >etc, or > > >>the fix doesn't work. Just the simple act of releasing the power >> >> >button > > >>before you plugged in the cable didn't permit the reset to work. >> >> > >You are so right about that. So many things about computers have to be >very detailed, and if one small thing is missed, it doesn't work. In mhy >view part of the instructions were not completely clear and could have >used a bit more explanation to make things perfectly clear for slow >people like me. After where it said 2. PRESS and HOLD the POWER button, >turn on the computer" >I would have got it right the first time if for example, it had said 2. >PRESS and HOLD the POWER button, and "3.plug the power cord back into >the computer while still keeping your finger on the Power button", would >have been more detailed and made more sense to me. I don't think its >just me either as on the forum on the URL which Zak posted for >fixyourcomputer or whatever it was, many people couldnt get the reset >quite right and I bet some of it was because of doing what I did and >missing a crucial part of the steps. > > > >>Getting >>the refurb will undoubtedly be OK, especially because Staples will >> >> >extend > > >>the warranty to the replacement unit. Your original one would have >>continued to work just fine as the "ink waste tank full" warning >> >> >doesn't > > >>mean that you had a gallon of liquid in the base of your printer! >> >> >Nothing > > >>to fix, really, as people who have reset their printers once and not >>replaced the pad haven't had ink slosh out of the printer. >> >> > >But the point still is, its unpredictable whether the waste ink would >get full or not. > > >If could see the > > >>pad, you would probably just see some dried ink residue - more >> >> >concentrated > > >>at the ends and mostly under the place where the head parks itself and >> >> >the > > >>head cleaning is done. >> >> > >That could be true, but the fact that it has this message makes it more >likely that it could end up saying the absorber is full. Even though the >printer is reset and the error message may not appear any more, the >problem is still there and how long it will last before it could be >disabled is unpredictable. It may last 1 day and may last 2 years. But >if I had been able to reset it before arranging for the refurb one, I >might have just kept my own printer as I know everything works and the >refurb one, I don't know. But anyway, I will get the refurb one and hope >it works for a while. >By the way, is it difficult to get at waste absorber pads? I just see >one big silver screw at the left side when I open the printer cover. >Maybe if I could have unscrewed that, the long plastic part with the >waste pads under it, might have come off fairly easy and I could have >cleaned the pads myself. I am not going to do that now because no point, >but just wondered if there is just one screw to loosen to get into the >pads, or is it more complicated than that? > >Mary > > > |