Question re Canon iP1500
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From: zakezuke on 16 Apr 2006 03:09 > Well, they might not make all that much money on an ip1500 ink. The make more money on the ip1500 ink. It costs the end person more per ml. > If I had a printer with higher maintenance costs for ink that might be > true, or if I had a 4000 or 4200 which took more carts and had higher > priced ink (especially the 4200), they would make a lot more money on > ink. The ip4000 and the ip4200 assuming OEM ink costs less per page than the ip1500 or the ip1600. So assuming a given user prints 500 pages, they made more money on the ip1500 than the ip4000. > Canon know I have an extended warranty with Staples and may not buy > a Canon next time. Its all a gamble for them I guess. It's always a gamble.. but their customer service is pretty decent. Odds are people will go back. > Yes, I know not to buy a Lexmark because I heard the ink is very > expensive In some cases $10,000/gal us, vs $2500/gal for the ink for the ip4000. Assuming OEM.
From: Burt on 16 Apr 2006 03:31 "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in message news:e1sjpn$r0e$1(a)emma.aioe.org... (snip). > > So you can't just use a regular Philips or other regular screwdriver?. > It looks like its a Philips screw, though I didn't try it. Do you need a > special tool that only printer service technicians have? No special tools needed. A very thin blade screwdrive is the tool you would use for the slots I mentioned. That and a phillips screwdriver. > (snip) > Well, if you were not going to keep it... Did your wifes printer have a > message about the ink absorbers being almost full? > > Mary > I wanted her to occasionally printing photos and the BJC3000 didn't put out the quality of photo I wanted. The waste ink tank warning had not come up, but the print quality just didn't come up to the present models. I actually bought her a Canon i960, just like mine, as it was on a closeout for $100 in November, 2004. One of the best photo printers in the Canon line. Six color carts to achieve very smooth color transitions. When my own i960 got glitchy in January, 2006, I took hers and bought her an ip5000 (four color carts plus the bci-3ebk cart) as most of her printing is emails and websites - mostly text printing on plain paper. That printer was also on closeout for $100. Because the newest pixma printers have carts with computer chips and currently present a problem with refilling, I bought an extra ip5000 on the same sale and put it away as a spare. You save so much money with refilling that it was worthwhile to buy these as I did. The cost of refilling a bci-6 cart is about $1, more or less. Two sets of refills and I've paid for the new printer, as compared to buying OEM Canon carts. That is the most economical approach we've been telling you about.
From: Mary on 16 Apr 2006 14:51 "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1145171341.361680.56420(a)g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Well, they might not make all that much money on an ip1500 ink. > > The make more money on the ip1500 ink. It costs the end person more > per ml. Depends on how often you use the printer and how much you print. I was thinking of my daughter and husband. When they run out of ink on their Epson C62, they just don't bother to print for a while, then they buys compatibles. Which reminds me, about that thread to do with Epson class suit, that involves her C62 and my C64 and remember I told you my Epson C64 took tons of ink? I was right about that, so that doesn't surprise me in the least to find out that Epson were doing some fraudulent practices with their inks.. I constantly had to get it refilled at the refiller as it had no compatibles and the Epson carts were so expensive. That was why I got rid of it for the Canon ip1500 I now have. But since that class suit only applies to people in the US, it won't do me or my daughter any good. Too bad. > > If I had a printer with higher maintenance costs for ink that might be > > true, or if I had a 4000 or 4200 which took more carts and had higher > > priced ink (especially the 4200), they would make a lot more money on > > ink. > > The ip4000 and the ip4200 assuming OEM ink costs less per page than the > ip1500 or the ip1600. So assuming a given user prints 500 pages, they > made more money on the ip1500 than the ip4000. > > > Canon know I have an extended warranty with Staples and may not buy > > a Canon next time. Its all a gamble for them I guess. > > It's always a gamble.. but their customer service is pretty decent. > Odds are people will go back. Yes, their Customer service here too seems to be ok, unless I get a dud refurb printer. Mary
From: Mary on 16 Apr 2006 15:26 "Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message news:Npm0g.69174$Jd.16860(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > > "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in message > news:e1sjpn$r0e$1(a)emma.aioe.org... > (snip). > > > > So you can't just use a regular Philips or other regular screwdriver?. > > It looks like its a Philips screw, though I didn't try it. Do you need a > > special tool that only printer service technicians have? > > No special tools needed. A very thin blade screwdrive is the tool you would > use for the slots I mentioned. That and a phillips screwdriver. Well, maybe I could have fixed it myself but if I broke something (where you would take the part off is plastic and doesn't look very strong to me. The whole printer is plastic in fact) that would be the end of my Canon and Staples extended warranties. I was under the impression from various comments that a special tool. is needed to access the waste ink absorbers, but doesn't sound like it from what you are saying, but you did mention in a previous message that some printers are easier to get into than others, and about plastic fasteners on most models and a slot you insert an instrument into to release the catch. What kind of instrument? and like you say the manufacturers don't make it easy for user maintenance. Its good that you had a printer to experiment on in regartds to seeing the waste ink absorber parts, so you will have a good idea how difficult it is. What tools did you use? did you break any parts on the printer? In your position it didn't matter if you broke something as you were throwing the printer out, so had nothing to lose. If I broke something, I would have something to lose. > (snip) > Because the newest pixma printers have carts with > computer chips and currently present a problem with refilling, I > bought an extra ip5000 on the same sale and put it away as a spare. If there is a problem refilling the newest Pixma printers, how do you manage to refill them? and how does buying an extra printer help? doesn't the carts on it have a refillling problem too? > You save so >much money with refilling that it was worthwhile to buy these as I did. > The cost of refilling a bci-6 cart is about $1, more or less. Two sets of >refills and I've paid for the new printer, as compared to buying OEM Canon > carts. That is the most economical approach we've been telling you about. I get the impression that you do a lot of printing? Mary
From: Burt on 16 Apr 2006 19:36
"Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in message news:e1u5g1$rp3$1(a)emma.aioe.org... > "Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message > news:Npm0g.69174$Jd.16860(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... >> > >> Because the newest pixma printers have carts with >> computer chips and currently present a problem with refilling, I >> bought an extra ip5000 on the same sale and put it away as a spare. > > If there is a problem refilling the newest Pixma printers, how do you > manage to refill them? and how does buying an extra printer help? > doesn't the carts on it have a refillling problem too? The ip5000 is from the previous generation of printers (like the ip1500, ip4000, etc). The carts are the ones Zakezuke and I have been telling you about. No chips and easy to refill. It uses the same five carts as the ip4000 you were considering buying, but it had a more advanced printhead with smaller jets to produce better photo prints. .. > > I get the impression that you do a lot of printing? > > Mary > In spurts. Sometimes a lot and sometimes almost not at all. I also have a laser printer for text printing and use my i960 exclusively for photos and color graphics. |