From: Geoff Schaller on
Rene,

> Soon, I port my VO to .Net (be it in Vulcan or C#); who cares, I have
> unhealthy mind.

Do you really believe that? That your 600,000 lines of code will be that
easy to port to anything... let alone Vulcan? I think you had better
wait and see how the porting process works before you make your
investment. It just isn't going to be that easy.

Geoff


From: Geoff Schaller on
Hear, hear!

Excatly.

"Marshall Rhinehart" <mrhp<remove> wrote in message
news:25Wdnatz28Rj4ZXYnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d(a)adelphia.com:

> > 1. A VOer needs to join Brian's exclusive club thingy, if he wants to keep
> > programming in VO or Vulcan. There just isn't any realistic support, if
> > you don't do this. See Carlos's comments here.
> > 2. The club idea just does not wash with any big IT departments.
> > 3. It was therefore an ill thought out marking move on Grafx's part.
> > 4. You guys persisting with this strategy in my opinion have lost your
> > marbles.
>
>
> Had the 'club' been used as a six month to a year 'bridge' to a better
> product (using the subscription for funding..)... you might be able to make
> an argument for it. It's been far too long for a user to wait. One wonders
> if those that have paid will get to be the first to hear when things are
> officially shut down. A little irony in that. I guess as long as people
> are willing to subscribe....why kill a good thing?
>
> Marshall

From: Mullet on
Hope springs eternal. <g>

"Geoff Schaller" <geoff(a)xxxsoftwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message
news:45088511$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> <rofl> ...not even close!
>
>
> "richard.townsendrose(a)googlemail.com"
> <richard.townsendrose(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158163003.072704.20990(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Well I guess that VO2.8 is approaching the "pretty well fixed
>> everything" time like dbaseIII+Ver 1.1 and Clipper 5.0a did in their
>> time.
>>
>> Then it becomes just a tool with another 10 years of life to go. May be
>> I will retire when it does !
>>
>> It does all I need - and more.
>>
>> But I await it, and look forward to it.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Richard
>


From: Geoff Schaller on
...and this is quite consistent for Brian. No details, no timeframe, no
plan and no support.

Oh! ...and no bug fixes unless you pay extra.

Never mind that VO 2.8 was announced as "12 months away" 3.5 years ago
(Nuremberg) and never mind that the core promise of Unicode and XML
class support are no longer in the product plan. So now you want to tell
us that new features are some kind of trade secret. Imagine if Microsoft
took that approach?

Sheesh!



"ER!k V!sser" <burod000_notthis_(a)planet.nl> wrote in message
news:4mqr02F7fq6vU1(a)individual.net:

> Hi Jack,
> The featurelist and other details (costs etc) of VO 2.8 are not published
> yet.
> You should come to the SDE www.sdn.nl/sde (if you have not registrated yet)
> where Robert will tell and show us what will be inside.
>
> cu in Ede?
>
> Erik
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jack Konings" <jack_dot_konings(a)tiscali.nl> schreef in bericht
> news:45083382$0$716$5fc3050(a)dreader2.news.tiscali.nl...
>
> > What i'd really want to know (2.8) :
> >
> > 1. What are the differences to VO27A (new things, bugs fixed etc..);
> > because then i can motivate to my boss why i would like to purchase it
> > 2. What the upgrade will cost; because that's what my boss wants to know
> > 3. When it will be available; so i can prepare/mould him until
> > availability
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> > <djmadej1(a)poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
> > news:1158128053.941970.258410(a)i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Hi all,
> >> Do you know, when will be Vulcan and new version of VO released?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Jacek
> >>
> >
>
> >

From: Sherlock on
Graham

snip[ Drop everything, take a week off, spend $1,000's and fly to the
other side
> of the world, for Robert's "VO show and tell". ]

Whats different ... you did for years before and you did not complain
then.
Conferences have always been a meeting point and training and flying
the flag.
Yep they cost money.. but it is junket holiday and drink fest.

Phil McGuinness
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