Vulcan .Net and VO 2.8
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From: Rene J. Pajaron on 14 Sep 2006 00:13 Phil, >hired Gary Stark > using Crossfire. Crossfire, i thought is double GPU card solution of AMD-ATI? An nVidia SLI competitor in high-end gaming systems. Dont fire him, please.... Cheers, Rene Ayon kay Sherlock: > snip[ > Its hard cold reality Markus. The smart VOers left a long time > ago. ] > > The hard cold reality is the WIN32API programming is here for a long, > long time. > What you have invested in VO is not wasted and with a new 2.8 with a > development team committed to it and have put years and years into > making it a top line product with a .NET future was well. > > C# or .NET or the other multitude of environments like Eclipse or Java > or PHP or whatever depends on the developer more than the client. They > use a product in a browser or on a desktop and you choose your poision > how to go about it. Look at our shop with 1 full time C# another almost > fulltime PHP and me fulltime on VO and lately I have hired Gary Stark > using Crossfire... which C# which crosscompiles to CE/PALM/BLACKBERRY > and NOKIA. "Nokia" which is Symbian has sold 14 million units and as > these screens and features keep improving on Phones the Smartphone > market is the biggest growth market. > > Essentially Windows has the Desktop market, Linux and Windows have the > server market, Handhelds as above and it just keeps going. > > Pick the development environment language that does the job and VO does > an absolutely fantastic job and it will for years and years. > > Re .NET which has been through 1 and 2 and soon to be 3 will in time... > a longtime be "the desktop" development environment. But it still has > another 3 to 6 years to go yet. > > Phil McGuinness
From: E?!k V!sser on 14 Sep 2006 02:36 "Graham McKechnie" <gmknospam(a)bigpond.net.au> schreef in bericht news:X%_Ng.28463$rP1.17818(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > Erik, > >> Sure, it is the Dutch VO usergroup. (And Delphy, VB.NET, C#, Fox and >> DNN) >> We do this things for our members and as long as we have members who want >> tocome to these conferences, we will continue to have them. >> And even if you are not a member, you can join the conference. >> >> Nothing wrong with this I think. > > No Erik, nothing wrong with having a Dutch VO usergroup. I don't believe I > was being critical of the user group. > > I was just stating how rediculous your suggestion was to attend that > meeting just to listen to Robert's "VO show and tell", when the same info > could be published on a web site Everything can be published on websites. No need for conferences anymore. Please reread the thread above and you see i responded like 'come to the ug conference' to a DUTCH Vo-developer.No need for him to have week off to visit this conference. Erik > > Graham > > "E?!k V!sser" <burod000_notthis_(a)planet.nl> wrote in message > news:4mr9q3F7erevU1(a)individual.net... >> >> "Graham McKechnie" <gmknospam(a)bigpond.net.au> schreef in bericht >> news:4mZNg.28363$rP1.17904(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >>> Erik, >>> >>>> You should come to the SDE www.sdn.nl/sde (if you have not registrated >>>> yet) where Robert will tell and show us what will be inside. >>> >>> Another one of your great ideas. You are really on a roll today. >>> >>> Drop everything, take a week off, spend $1,000's and fly to the other >>> side of the world, for Robert's "VO show and tell". >>> >>> This is really some exclusive club.. >> . >> Sure, it is the Dutch VO usergroup. (And Delphy, VB.NET, C#, Fox and >> DNN) >> We do this things for our members and as long as we have members who want >> tocome to these conferences, we will continue to have them. >> And even if you are not a member, you can join the conference. >> >> Nothing wrong with this I think. >> >> Erik >> >> >> >>> >>> Graham >>> >>> "E?!k V!sser" <burod000_notthis_(a)planet.nl> wrote in message >>> news:4mqr02F7fq6vU1(a)individual.net... >>>> Hi Jack, >>>> The featurelist and other details (costs etc) of VO 2.8 are not >>>> published yet. >>>> You should come to the SDE www.sdn.nl/sde (if you have not registrated >>>> yet) where Robert will tell and show us what will be inside. >>>> >>>> cu in Ede? >>>> >>>> Erik >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Jack Konings" <jack_dot_konings(a)tiscali.nl> schreef in bericht >>>> news:45083382$0$716$5fc3050(a)dreader2.news.tiscali.nl... >>>>> What i'd really want to know (2.8) : >>>>> >>>>> 1. What are the differences to VO27A (new things, bugs fixed etc..); >>>>> because then i can motivate to my boss why i would like to purchase it >>>>> 2. What the upgrade will cost; because that's what my boss wants to >>>>> know >>>>> 3. When it will be available; so i can prepare/mould him until >>>>> availability >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> >>>>> Jack >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <djmadej1(a)poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message >>>>> news:1158128053.941970.258410(a)i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> Do you know, when will be Vulcan and new version of VO released? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Jacek >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
From: E?!k V!sser on 14 Sep 2006 02:52 Geoff, > So now you want to tell us that new features are some kind of trade > secret. Rubish. I am not about the way Grafx handles business. Like everyone else SDN members are interested in the VO future so if I can invite Robert to tell and show us all about VO 2.8 I think it is great. Erik .. > Sheesh! > > > > "ER!k V!sser" <burod000_notthis_(a)planet.nl> wrote in message > news:4mqr02F7fq6vU1(a)individual.net: > >> Hi Jack, >> The featurelist and other details (costs etc) of VO 2.8 are not published >> yet. >> You should come to the SDE www.sdn.nl/sde (if you have not registrated >> yet) >> where Robert will tell and show us what will be inside. >> >> cu in Ede? >> >> Erik >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Jack Konings" <jack_dot_konings(a)tiscali.nl> schreef in bericht >> news:45083382$0$716$5fc3050(a)dreader2.news.tiscali.nl... >> >> > What i'd really want to know (2.8) : >> > >> > 1. What are the differences to VO27A (new things, bugs fixed etc..); >> > because then i can motivate to my boss why i would like to purchase it >> > 2. What the upgrade will cost; because that's what my boss wants to >> > know >> > 3. When it will be available; so i can prepare/mould him until >> > availability >> > >> > Greetings, >> > >> > Jack >> > >> > >> > >> > <djmadej1(a)poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message >> > news:1158128053.941970.258410(a)i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Do you know, when will be Vulcan and new version of VO released? >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Jacek >> >> >> > >> >> > >
From: Geoff Schaller on 14 Sep 2006 03:30 Erik, > Rubish. I am not about the way Grafx handles business. > Like everyone else SDN members are interested in the VO future so if I can > invite Robert to tell and show us all about VO 2.8 I think it is great. That's not under discussion. Given that Robert is local to you I would have expected nothing less. In fact for Robert to not attend would have screamed volumes. However, VO is a commercial product with an international audience. A large number of people base their commercial and professional lives on the product. When something as significant as a new version and feature set is imminent, it is just normal and expected that such details would be widely advertised. It is just so bizarre that Brian feels the need for secrecy on such things and it leaves most people with a vacant pit in their stomachs wondering about the product and its management where it's owner refuses to speak publicly about it. Makes you wonder openly about the professionalism behind the product. Geoff
From: E?!k V!sser on 14 Sep 2006 03:46
> It is just so bizarre that Brian feels the need for secrecy on such > things and it leaves most people with a vacant pit in their stomachs > wondering about the product and its management where it's owner refuses to > speak publicly about it. Makes you wonder openly about the professionalism > behind the product. Brian has his reasons not to publish the list until he is sure that everything on that list can make it on the product or whatever reason. You , I and everybody else can have his/her own opinion on that. But Grafrx is not a democratic parlement where votes count It is Brian who has to run his business. Erik |