From: Sherlock on
Rene

Crossfire is .NET application which develops cross platform handheld
applications and you can use C# or VB.NET. It has it own classes and
heaps of them and you have the .NET framework. You select you
destination platform PALM, CE , Blackberry, Nokia etc and it builds
native applications for these platforms.

We used the original program Mobile VB and Gary developed this
application. It has been running for about 3 years and now there are
over 600+ devices theis company had 600 devices drivers for the
products.

Phil McGuinness

From: Graham McKechnie on
Erik,

> You , I and everybody else can have his/her own opinion on that. But
> Grafrx is not a democratic parlement where votes count
> It is Brian who has to run his business.

Fair enough that is his right, but you'd think he might copy the business
plan of other successful companies.
Keeping the product feature list a secret, having an exclusive club etc is
just a pathetic way to promote a product.

No wonder a thread like this always wakes up this forum - it happens every
time. Then again its about the only sort of activity you ever see here. You
can be away from this forum for a couple of weeks - get back on and your
last message is still probably visible, right under uncle Phil's last "must
read important information" post.

And every time it happens more VOers become ex VOers - they just don't like
where its all heading and I'll bet they are now really pissed off that they
didn't leave sooner.

>> Makes you wonder openly about the professionalism behind the product.

Geoff, you are correct with that comment.

Graham


"E?!k V!sser" <burod000_notthis_(a)planet.nl> wrote in message
news:4msfpnF7ldopU1(a)individual.net...
>
>> It is just so bizarre that Brian feels the need for secrecy on such
>> things and it leaves most people with a vacant pit in their stomachs
>> wondering about the product and its management where it's owner refuses
>> to speak publicly about it. Makes you wonder openly about the
>> professionalism behind the product.
>
> Brian has his reasons not to publish the list until he is sure that
> everything on that list can make it on the product or whatever reason.
> You , I and everybody else can have his/her own opinion on that. But
> Grafrx is not a democratic parlement where votes count
> It is Brian who has to run his business.
>
> Erik
>
>
>
>


From: Rene J. Pajaron on
Phil,

> Crossfire is .NET application which develops cross platform handheld
> applications and you can use C# or VB.NET

In my understanding, it is a .Net mobile components that u can use on
any .Net development platform, including Vulcan. Correct me if i am
wrong.

http://www.appforge.com/products/crossfire/index.html


I better check this out, I believe my hands will get full on mobile
particularly the the GSM services.

Anyway, my apps soon will get ATM connectivty. Long live VO.....

It is good not to be "smart" all the time....

Rene

Ayon kay Sherlock:
> Rene
>
> Crossfire is .NET application which develops cross platform handheld
> applications and you can use C# or VB.NET. It has it own classes and
> heaps of them and you have the .NET framework. You select you
> destination platform PALM, CE , Blackberry, Nokia etc and it builds
> native applications for these platforms.
>
> We used the original program Mobile VB and Gary developed this
> application. It has been running for about 3 years and now there are
> over 600+ devices theis company had 600 devices drivers for the
> products.
>
> Phil McGuinness

From: Sherlock on
Rene

snip[ In my understanding, it is a .Net mobile components that u can
use on
> any .Net development platform, including Vulcan. Correct me if i am wrong. ]

Not sure yet... but when I can get some Vulcan time up my sleeve and I
can get more time using .NET .. I will let you know. The trouble is we
have almost unlimited VO and Web work it is difficult to stop one thing
to move to another thing.

snip[ I better check this out, I believe my hands will get full on
mobile particularly the the GSM services. ]

We are using Crossfire 5 in this project but Crossfire 6 is out and
Crossfire 6.5 to be released soon. They have done absolutely heaps in
whole webservices area for mobiles and WIFI, Signatture capture and
other connectivity across the range of handhelds on the market.

Phil McGuinness
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From: Rene J. Pajaron on
Phil,

Very interesting indeed. Considering that with VO we can do heaps of
things.

However, all my new apps will be .Net.

Better download a eval for Crossfire, I will try this with C# Express

Rene

Ayon kay Sherlock:
> Rene
>
> snip[ In my understanding, it is a .Net mobile components that u can
> use on
> > any .Net development platform, including Vulcan. Correct me if i am wrong. ]
>
> Not sure yet... but when I can get some Vulcan time up my sleeve and I
> can get more time using .NET .. I will let you know. The trouble is we
> have almost unlimited VO and Web work it is difficult to stop one thing
> to move to another thing.
>
> snip[ I better check this out, I believe my hands will get full on
> mobile particularly the the GSM services. ]
>
> We are using Crossfire 5 in this project but Crossfire 6 is out and
> Crossfire 6.5 to be released soon. They have done absolutely heaps in
> whole webservices area for mobiles and WIFI, Signatture capture and
> other connectivity across the range of handhelds on the market.
>
> Phil McGuinness
> -----------------