Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Steve O on 30 Jun 2008 18:05 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:5421b8a8-3b91-4b3b-b6a6-d6db5f4ce845(a)s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 29, 9:46�am, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:23:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote: >> >> >No, I do not have difficulty following conversations. �Atheists said >> >that there was nothing in the Bible that could be proven. >> >> No atheist claims such a ridiculous thing. Obviously there are things >> in the Bible that can be proven. It is trivial, for example to >> demonstrate the existence of the city of Jerusalem, so I don't know >> why you're so insistent on the existence of a particular tunnel being >> significant. Because he has nothing else? Sad, really, isn't it? snip > Well, you claim to believe in Jerusalem even though it is mentioned in > the Bible. So why is it so impossible for an atheist to admit the > existence of Hezekiah's tunnel? > Robert B. Winn I have already agreed that the tunnel, together with others not mentioned in the bible, does exist. Your move. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Steve O on 30 Jun 2008 18:06 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:0dead23a-74ab-49bf-a087-30557e573751(a)p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 29, 10:57�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1c31d316-2b91-43f6-b6c0-3fb4dbf97774(a)z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> On Jun 29, 12:13 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > rbwinn wrote: >> > > On Jun 28, 2:15 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> > >> rbwinn wrote: >> > >>> On Jun 28, 7:04?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> > >>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:01:05 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >> > >>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> > >>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >> > >>>>> On Jun 28, 12:21?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >> > >>>> ... >> > >>>>>>> No, you were trying to hedge your bets. ?You do not believe in >> > >>>>>>> faith, >> > >>>>>>> but you are "on the edge of faith", so that counts in case you >> > >>>>>>> need to >> > >>>>>>> have faith. ?I know how atheists think. >> > >>>>>> Why would I need to hedge my bets? I believe in faith, I just >> > >>>>>> don't >> > >>>>>> think it's rational. And believe me, you really *don't* know how >> > >>>>>> atheists think.- Hide quoted text - >> > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> > >>>>> I know far better than atheists how they think. ?They have made a >> > >>>>> wrong choice, so their options are limited. >> > >>>> Your lies are indefensible. You celebrate the evil that you have >> > >>>> fallen >> > >>>> into. >> > >>> I thought you atheists did not believe evil exists. If there is no >> > >>> devil, everything is good, isn't it? >> > >> Evil sounds like a religious concept to me, but why would you think >> > >> that >> > >> we can't differentiate right from wrong. Another strawman? >> >> > >> We seem to be able to discuss without lying, can you?- Hide quoted >> > >> text - >> >> > >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > > Sure. A while back you were saying that there was nothing wrong with >> > > killing children before they are born. So are you saying that killing >> > > children before they are born is a good thing? >> >> > Where did I say that? Can you show me, or is that another lie? Abortion >> > is deeply unpleasant, however I don't think it should be banned. >> > They're >> > not children yet, by the way.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> Not children yet? �What do you think they are? >> >> =============== >> >> Technically speaking, they are parasites living off a grown female.- Hide >> quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, thank you for your answer, Alex. So human beings are nothing > except parasites in atheist theology. > Robert B. Winn This is why you can't have a reasonable conversation with this buffoon. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Steve O on 30 Jun 2008 18:09 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:61174020-7051-443b-87a2- > I have never seen an atheist who opposes abortion. I believe that pro- > life atheists are mythological. > Robert B. Winn You've never seen one, but you have communicated with one. I am an atheist who is opposed to abortion. We are no longer mythological. How do you reconcile that with your twisted worldview? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Steve O on 30 Jun 2008 18:22 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:14f3f386-e2e3-4344-a62a-d76b64a7e751(a)f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 30, 1:26�am, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: >> On Jun 28, 10:04 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:59:13 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> > wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> > >On Jun 28, 12:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> > >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> > ... >> >> > >> > It came from me. >> >> > >> Maybe if you could show me where I did that? Why won't you back up >> > >> anything you say?- Hide quoted text - >> >> > >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > >Well, for instance, I said that Hezekiah's tunnel exists, and you and >> > >other atheists claimed that I had said that London, England, does not >> > >exist. �I did not say a thing about London, England. �It all came from >> > >atheists. >> >> > You lie to us, once again. Please, don't post another post that >> > contains >> > lies. Learn to be honest. Stop mocking the religion you claim to be >> > part >> > of and stop mocking the God you claim to worship. Your lies are a >> > stench >> > upon the world. >> >> It all boils down to psycho problem. >> He is not himself or he can't help himself. And I am not sure if he >> knows that he lied. >> I have ask if he need a recommendation for a good psychiatric doctor, >> but certainly there is no medicine to help him.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, what I would suggest is that you go to a magistrate somewhere in > the United States and file a petition asking for the > institutionalization of a person believed to be insane. Anyone is > free to do this. Don't just talk. Do something to show that you > believe what you say. > Robert B. Winn Robert, just because you are insane it doesn't automatically mean that you should be placed in an institution- there are plenty of people with mental problems who haven't been sectioned into an institution. What he was saying is that you should seek psychiatric help, not become institutionalized. If it wasn't for your particular mental health problems, you might have understood this to start with -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Free Lunch on 30 Jun 2008 18:55
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:56:38 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in <1900f52f-d8ce-4bae-8506-5a41a6d099c6(a)27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>: >On Jun 29, 3:56?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:15:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote: >> >> >I just believe what Paul said. ?You seem a little upset that I do not >> >believe your fable. >> >> Paul had nothing to say about evolution. > >Well, you might want to read the Bible instead of pretending to know >what it says. I have, that is why I know you are lying. |