Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Steve O on 1 Jul 2008 02:59 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:2cd82a5a-f445-4105-b500-b805f0662927(a)s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 30, 3:09�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> news:61174020-7051-443b-87a2- >> > I have never seen an atheist who opposes abortion. �I believe that pro- >> > life atheists are mythological. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> You've never seen one, but you have communicated with one. >> I am an atheist who is opposed to abortion. >> We are no longer mythological. >> How do you reconcile that with your twisted worldview? > > Well, to be honest, Steve, I do not believe you. > Robert B. Winn My statement is supportable. All you have to do is Google previous posts on abortion to see where I stand on the subject. You can continue with your inaccurate belief if you wish to, but all it serves to do is highlight your wilful ignorance and inability to establish facts. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: BuddyThunder on 1 Jul 2008 03:04 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 30, 1:01�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> Well, there is the beauty of the gospel. � We do not need to defend >>>>> the faith. �All we need to do is accept the atonement of Christ and >>>>> keep his commandments. >>>> I can't accept Christ's atonement without first believing in it. I >>>> don't. Why would I?- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Well, you would if you wanted to be saved. �You will probably change >>> your mind about it after you die. >> Saved from what? What strange beliefs. Not much of a religion if it >> can't be distinguished from any other as being "the truth". Not much of >> a religion if all you have is "you'll see". Ah well. Upwards and onwards!- Hide quoted text - >> > > Well, why don't you decide for yourself what you will do. I will > decide for myself what I will do. Does that seem unfair to you? Not remotely! There is no other way it should be! I wish you well with your truth-seeking.
From: BuddyThunder on 1 Jul 2008 03:07 Steve O wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:61174020-7051-443b-87a2- > >> I have never seen an atheist who opposes abortion. I believe that pro- >> life atheists are mythological. >> Robert B. Winn > > You've never seen one, but you have communicated with one. > I am an atheist who is opposed to abortion. > We are no longer mythological. > How do you reconcile that with your twisted worldview? You'll be ignored, denied, or just flat-out lied about. Because he knows you better than you know yourself! It seems likely that he won't feel any shame about the dishonesty or intellectual bankruptcy.
From: BuddyThunder on 1 Jul 2008 03:08 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 30, 3:09�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:61174020-7051-443b-87a2- >>> I have never seen an atheist who opposes abortion. �I believe that pro- >>> life atheists are mythological. >>> Robert B. Winn >> You've never seen one, but you have communicated with one. >> I am an atheist who is opposed to abortion. >> We are no longer mythological. >> How do you reconcile that with your twisted worldview? >> >> -- >> Steve O >> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) >> B.A.A.W.A. >> Convicted by Earthquack, >> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence >> "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the >> face, you can see a burnt tortilla" > > Well, to be honest, Steve, I do not believe you. There you go!! Who had "blanket denial"? Come and collect your winnings. :-)
From: rbwinn on 1 Jul 2008 03:11
On Jun 30, 3:56�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:02:36 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > <c3447487-ef74-4a5a-9197-58ff3792a...(a)f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Jun 29, 4:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:29:33 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >On Jun 29, 8:44?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:26:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >On Jun 29, 12:13?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> > On Jun 28, 2:15 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >>> On Jun 28, 7:04?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:01:05 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> >>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >> >>>>> On Jun 28, 12:21?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> ... > >> >> >> >>>>>>> No, you were trying to hedge your bets. ?You do not believe in faith, > >> >> >> >>>>>>> but you are "on the edge of faith", so that counts in case you need to > >> >> >> >>>>>>> have faith. ?I know how atheists think. > >> >> >> >>>>>> Why would I need to hedge my bets? I believe in faith, I just don't > >> >> >> >>>>>> think it's rational. And believe me, you really *don't* know how > >> >> >> >>>>>> atheists think.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >> >>>>> I know far better than atheists how they think. ?They have made a > >> >> >> >>>>> wrong choice, so their options are limited. > >> >> >> >>>> Your lies are indefensible. You celebrate the evil that you have fallen > >> >> >> >>>> into. > >> >> >> >>> I thought you atheists did not believe evil exists. ?If there is no > >> >> >> >>> devil, everything is good, isn't it? > >> >> >> >> Evil sounds like a religious concept to me, but why would you think that > >> >> >> >> we can't differentiate right from wrong. Another strawman? > > >> >> >> >> We seem to be able to discuss without lying, can you?- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >> > Sure. ?A while back you were saying that there was nothing wrong with > >> >> >> > killing children before they are born. ?So are you saying that killing > >> >> >> > children before they are born is a good thing? > > >> >> >> Where did I say that? Can you show me, or is that another lie? Abortion > >> >> >> is deeply unpleasant, however I don't think it should be banned. They're > >> >> >> not children yet, by the way.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >Not children yet? ?What do you think they are? > > >> >> Embryos and fetuses.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >So you are saying that people who call them unborn children are lying? > > >> It depends on why they are calling them that. If it is the prospective > >> parents, it is wonderful, it shows their great love for their > >> baby-to-be. If it is a religious zealot trying to destroy the rights of > >> Americans, then they are telling lies at the legal level because they > >> just cannot stop trying to tell other people what to do. Funny how many > >> of these people follow a despot who is not married and does not allow a > >> single one of his priests to marry. The Pope knows nothing about babies > >> and mocks God with his foolish teachings. You, on the other hand, keep > >> yourself from learning and repeat lies the way it rains in the Amazon.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, I would suspect that one of the religious zealots you are > >talking about would be Luke. � Luke wrote in his gospel, Luke 2:5 �To > >be taxed with Mary his espoused wife being great with child. > >No wonder you think the writers of the Bible were religious zealots. > >To those of us who believe that children exist before they are born, > >Luke seems to have the right idea, unlike atheists of today. � In > >fact, if the Bible is true, which it is, atheists of today are lying > >about not being able to tell that an unborn human being is a child. > >Robert B. Winn > > Once again you show that you are nothing but a mendacious fool, > misrepresenting what I wrote.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, there is no way to misinterpret what you said. You claim that you cannot tell it is wrong to kill an unborn child. Robert B. Winn |