Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Free Lunch on 30 Jun 2008 19:02 On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:01:44 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism hhyapster(a)gmail.com wrote in <998a51ea-d5b6-40cf-8932-87a8d9db41e7(a)u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>: >On Jun 29, 9:06 am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:26:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >On Jun 28, 12:50?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:11:54 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >On Jun 28, 7:17?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >On Jun 28, 12:26?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Jun 27, 6:42?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Jack wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>> I am upset by *people* who >> >> >> >> >>>> believe that the Bible is anything more than mythology and try ?to impose >> >> >> >> >>>> their >> >> >> >> >>>> beliefs on me ?using the Bible as evidence. >> >> >> >> >>> How can someone impose a belief on you? ?Just believe whatever you want to >> >> >> >> >>> believe. >> >> >> >> >> The wrong part is when people attempt to use the myth to formulate >> >> >> >> >> public policy or indoctrinate children or inform foreign policy. >> >> >> >> >> > Well, actually they use fables. ?The apostles Paul said they would be >> >> >> >> > turned to fables in the last days. ?A fable is a story about animals >> >> >> >> > like the story about monkeys turning into humans. >> >> >> >> >> Wow, you're ignorant about evolution. Colour me surprised. >> >> >> >> >In what way am I ignorant about evolution? >> >> >> >> Monkeys and humans do share a common ancestor. Your denial of the fact >> >> >> does not change that fact.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >Charles Darwin was not my ancestor. >> >> >> So? >> >> >> Evolution happens. Learn to deal with reality.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >I never have believed in evolution. I think it is a fable, just as >> >Paul said it was. >> >> Paul knew nothing about it. You mock the Bible with such silly >> interpretations of it. > >OK, but since bible is just a fairy tale stories, why can't he mock >it? He's completely free to mock the Bible. I like it when supposed Christians mock God and the Bible inadvertently. >I myself will mock this story book. But you aren't trying to tell us that it's true.
From: raven1 on 30 Jun 2008 19:02 On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:13:30 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >On Jun 29, 4:25?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:49:51 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Technically speaking, they are parasites living off a grown female.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >Well, thank you for your answer, Alex. ?So human beings >> >> Nice try. Human beings, by definition, have been born. A fetus is not >> yet a person, albeit it has the potential to be one. Further, even if >> one was to grant that a fetus was a human being, it is not clear to me >> why its need to be carried for nine months would somehow trump an >> adult woman's right to control her own body, especially if the >> pregnancy was unwanted, unplanned, or occurred by force. >> >> >are nothing >> >except parasites in atheist theology. >> >> There is no such thing as "atheist theology". Atheism is the absence >> of belief in deities, and implies no other political, moral, or >> philosophical position. Atheists fall along the entire political >> spectrum, including those who oppose abortion. > >I have never seen an atheist who opposes abortion. I believe that pro- >life atheists are mythological. Ye Old One refutes your claim.
From: raven1 on 30 Jun 2008 19:05 On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:56:38 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >On Jun 29, 3:56?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:15:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote: >> >> >I just believe what Paul said. ?You seem a little upset that I do not >> >believe your fable. >> >> Paul had nothing to say about evolution. > >Well, you might want to read the Bible instead of pretending to know >what it says. So might you. Chapter and verse, please, or retraction.
From: John Locke on 30 Jun 2008 19:13 On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:57:05 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in ><4d47e464-df75-43c4-94bd-383dbd74f654(a)m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >>On Jun 29, 4:12?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>> >>> >On Jun 29, 7:07?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>> >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >>> >>> ... >>> >>> >> >I did not lie. ?There actually is a conduit for water between Gihon >>> >> >spring and the pool of Siloam. >>> >>> >> And, as you know, that is not the lie I have pointed out to you. You lie >>> >> here by falsely and intentionally trying to distract us from the lie >>> >> under discussion. You know that no one imposes abortion in the United >>> >> States. That is another in a long line of lies that you refuse to repent >>> >> of.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> >> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> >The Supreme Court and other atheists imposed abortion on the United >>> >States. >>> >>> Abortion is not imposed. You know that. No one is ever forced to have an >>> abortion by our government. Stop lying to us. >> >>Women have been forced to have abortions in order to get welfare >>assistance. > >Point us to the evidence. > >Based on your track record, I do not believe you. > He can't site any evidence. For one thing, it would be highly illegal to force a woman into an abortion. "There is not enough love and kindness in the world to give any of it away to imaginary beings." - Friederich Nietzsche
From: Free Lunch on 30 Jun 2008 19:40
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:05:32 -0400, in alt.atheism raven1 <quoththeraven(a)nevermore.com> wrote in <jkpi64ld2n31rds85ag9orug741niuic2q(a)4ax.com>: >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:56:38 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> >wrote: > >>On Jun 29, 3:56?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:15:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >I just believe what Paul said. ?You seem a little upset that I do not >>> >believe your fable. >>> >>> Paul had nothing to say about evolution. >> >>Well, you might want to read the Bible instead of pretending to know >>what it says. > >So might you. Chapter and verse, please, or retraction. Winn never retracts, he just adds another lie to the pile he's already created. |