Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 1 Jul 2008 03:18 On Jun 30, 4:00�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:26:07 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > <b804ab27-a92f-4ef2-a69c-54dd80028...(a)j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Jun 30, 12:25?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> Free Lunch wrote: > >> > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:15:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> > wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> On Jun 28, 6:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:26:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >>>> On Jun 28, 12:50?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:11:54 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >>>>>> On Jun 28, 7:17?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno..com> > >> >>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:26?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:42?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Jack wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am upset by *people* who > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> believe that the Bible is anything more than mythology and try ?to impose > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> their > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs on me ?using the Bible as evidence. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> How can someone impose a belief on you? ?Just believe whatever you want to > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> believe. > >> >>>>>>>>>>> The wrong part is when people attempt to use the myth to formulate > >> >>>>>>>>>>> public policy or indoctrinate children or inform foreign policy. > >> >>>>>>>>>> Well, actually they use fables. ?The apostles Paul said they would be > >> >>>>>>>>>> turned to fables in the last days. ?A fable is a story about animals > >> >>>>>>>>>> like the story about monkeys turning into humans. > >> >>>>>>>>> Wow, you're ignorant about evolution. Colour me surprised. > >> >>>>>>>> In what way am I ignorant about evolution? > >> >>>>>>> Monkeys and humans do share a common ancestor. Your denial of the fact > >> >>>>>>> does not change that fact.- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >>>>>> Charles Darwin was not my ancestor. > >> >>>>> So? > >> >>>>> Evolution happens. Learn to deal with reality.- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >>>> I never have believed in evolution. ?I think it is a fable, just as > >> >>>> Paul said it was. > >> >>> Paul knew nothing about it. You mock the Bible with such silly > >> >>> interpretations of it.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> I just believe what Paul said. ?You seem a little upset that I do not > >> >> believe your fable. > > >> > Your problem is that you _lied_ about what Paul said. He _never_ said > >> > that evolution was a fable. That was the lie you told, one you cannot > >> > back up with _anything_ in the Bible, not from Paul, not from anywhere. > > >> It's gotta be tough to keep 'em all in a row this far down the road!- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, if Paul had named Charles Darwin by name, atheists would claim > >he was not talking about evolution. > > You know you lied to us, but you are trying to run away from your > behavior when you were caught.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Sorry, I believe Paul, not your fable. Robert B. Winn
From: BuddyThunder on 1 Jul 2008 03:20 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 30, 1:19�pm, Enkidu <fox_rgf...(a)trashmail.net> wrote: >> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in news:22183802-cf28-4305-af11- >> 7d254b106...(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: >> >>> You are the one being deliberately obtuse. � The existence of the >>> tunnel validates many other things said in the Bible about the >>> Assyrian invasion of Judea. >> "The Hobbit" talks of ale, axes, and forests which we know exist. Does that >> validate Orcs, Elves, Dwarves, trolls, magic rings, walking trees and Tom >> Bombadil? >> >> -- >> Enkidu AA#2165 � >> EAC Chaplain and ordained minister, >> ULC, Modesto, CA >> >> Doesn't anything socialistic make you want to throw up? Like great public >> schools, or health insurance for all? >> � � �-Kurt Vonnegut > > Why don't you decide for yourself? You were the one who thought of > it. Why don't you try to defend your assertions? How can we know we can trust what you say?
From: BuddyThunder on 1 Jul 2008 03:21 Alex W. wrote: > "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message > news:48693e0b(a)clear.net.nz... >> Alex W. wrote: > > >>>>> Hair doesn't stop growing. >>>>> It migrates. >>>>> Have you checked your ears and nostrils recently? >>>> Jeez, you ain't wrong about that, but how come my plug-hole has >>>> sprouted? >>> I have no idea, and this is definitely too much information ... >> Awwwwww, no! I meant the drain-hole.... in the shower!! > > Think before you write! > You could have traumatised me for life here! Oh man, I'm so ashamed that someone had to tell an atheist to think before they post! ;-)
From: rbwinn on 1 Jul 2008 03:21 On Jun 30, 4:13�pm, John Locke <johnlocke98...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:57:05 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> > wrote: > > > > > > >On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > ><4d47e464-df75-43c4-94bd-383dbd74f...(a)m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > >>On Jun 29, 4:12?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >>> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >>> >On Jun 29, 7:07?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>> >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >>> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >>> ... > > >>> >> >I did not lie. ?There actually is a conduit for water between Gihon > >>> >> >spring and the pool of Siloam. > > >>> >> And, as you know, that is not the lie I have pointed out to you. You lie > >>> >> here by falsely and intentionally trying to distract us from the lie > >>> >> under discussion. You know that no one imposes abortion in the United > >>> >> States. That is another in a long line of lies that you refuse to repent > >>> >> of.- Hide quoted text - > > >>> >> - Show quoted text - > > >>> >The Supreme Court and other atheists imposed abortion on the United > >>> >States. > > >>> Abortion is not imposed. You know that. No one is ever forced to have an > >>> abortion by our government. Stop lying to us. > > >>Women have been forced to have abortions in order to get welfare > >>assistance. > > >Point us to the evidence. > > >Based on your track record, I do not believe you. > > He can't site any evidence. For one thing, it would be highly illegal > to force a woman into an abortion. > > "There is not enough love and kindness in the world > to give any of it away to imaginary beings." - Friederich Nietzsche- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The government does it all the time. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 1 Jul 2008 03:25
On Jun 30, 6:28 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:c4e4d588-3124-45b3-a064-d5a153da4758(a)z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jun 30, 2:59�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1ce59514-cea6-4e3f-b227-f2e92dd39117(a)l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com.... > > >> > Why would I invent a religion? > >> > Robert b. Winn > > >> Your prophet, Joe Smith managed to do that and did quite well out of it.. > >> (at least until the mob caught up with him, that is) > >> So why shouldn't you? > > >> -- > >> Steve O > > > Joseph Smith had a very difficult life.  Then he was shot by a mob. > > If he did quite well out of it, then it was in the hereafter.  So are > > you saying that you believe Joseph Smith obtained some kind of reward > > after his death? > > Robert B. Winn > > Of course I'm not, and I have absolutely no idea why you would suggest that > I am saying anything like that. > How is it even remotely possible for some one to receive a reward AFTER > death? > > -- > Steve O > a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > B.A.A.W.A. > Convicted by Earthquack, > Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence > "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the > face, you can see a burnt tortilla"- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - So you atheists are going to take what you can get before you die, right? Robert B. Winn |