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From: rbwinn on 2 Jul 2008 15:58 On Jul 2, 12:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:0654196a-182b-4495-9322-a7e488df4f01(a)56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 1:04 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:13339a2a-8599-41b2-ac22-cb13fde245ce(a)l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com.... > > >> > On Jul 1, 3:58 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >> >>news:12bd9c5a-fc7c-437c-862b-33e48b270a59(a)m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > >> >> > On Jun 30, 6:37 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >> >> >>news:6b4ffde3-6dd2-42e1-ae8b-31dca39a4aee(a)f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > >> >> >> > On Jun 30, 1:03 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >> > On Jun 29, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> > >> >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 29, 10:57�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> >>>>news:1c31d316-2b91-43f6-b6c0-3fb4dbf97774(a)z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > >> >> >> >> >>>> On Jun 29, 12:13 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> > >> >> >> >> >>>> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Jun 28, 2:15 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> > >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 7:04?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:01:05 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 12:21?am, BuddyThunder > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> ... > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you were trying to hedge your bets. ?You do not > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> believe > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> in > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> faith, > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> but you are "on the edge of faith", so that counts > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> in > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> case > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> you > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> need to > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> have faith. ?I know how atheists think. > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Why would I need to hedge my bets? I believe in > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> faith, > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> just > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> think it's rational. And believe me, you really > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> *don't* > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> know > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> how > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> atheists think.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> I know far better than atheists how they think. ?They > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> have > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> made a > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrong choice, so their options are limited. > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Your lies are indefensible. You celebrate the evil > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> that > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> you > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> have > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> fallen > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> into. > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> I thought you atheists did not believe evil exists. If > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> there > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> is > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> no > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> devil, everything is good, isn't it? > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Evil sounds like a religious concept to me, but why > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> would > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> you > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> think > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> that > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> we can't differentiate right from wrong. Another > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> strawman? > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> We seem to be able to discuss without lying, can you?- > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Hide > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> quoted > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> text - > >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >> >> >>>>>> Sure. A while back you were saying that there was nothing > >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrong > >> >> >> >> >>>>>> with > >> >> >> >> >>>>>> killing children before they are born. So are you saying > >> >> >> >> >>>>>> that > >> >> >> >> >>>>>> killing > >> >> >> >> >>>>>> children before they are born is a good thing? > >> >> >> >> >>>>> Where did I say that? Can you show me, or is that another > >> >> >> >> >>>>> lie? > >> >> >> >> >>>>> Abortion > >> >> >> >> >>>>> is deeply unpleasant, however I don't think it should be > >> >> >> >> >>>>> banned. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> They're > >> >> >> >> >>>>> not children yet, by the way.- Hide quoted text - > >> >> >> >> >>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >> >> >>>> Not children yet? �What do you think they are? > >> >> >> >> >>>> =============== > >> >> >> >> >>>> Technically speaking, they are parasites living off a grown > >> >> >> >> >>>> female.- > >> >> >> >> >>>> Hide quoted text - > >> >> >> >> >>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >> >> >> >>> Well, thank you for your answer, Alex. So human beings are > >> >> >> >> >>> nothing > >> >> >> >> >>> except parasites in atheist theology. > >> >> >> >> >> Read it again, this time trying to understand as you go.- > >> >> >> >> >> Hide > >> >> >> >> >> quoted > >> >> >> >> >> text - > > >> >> >> >> > I understood it exactly the first time I read it. > > >> >> >> >> Then why the misrepresentation of what was said? No implication > >> >> >> >> was > >> >> >> >> made > >> >> >> >> that "human beings are nothing except parasites". You > >> >> >> >> misunderstood, > >> >> >> >> or > >> >> >> >> lied. Which was it?- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >> > This guy says that a baby in its mother's womb is nothing but a > >> >> >> > parasite on the mother, and you say, No implication was made that > >> >> >> > "human beings are nothing except parasites". I believe that if > >> >> >> > something is a parasite when it is in its mother's womb, then it > >> >> >> > is > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> > parasite after it leaves its mother's womb. A parasite is never > >> >> >> > anything except a parasite. > >> >> >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> >> >> Please try an educate yourself and read up a little on the > >> >> >> parasitical > >> >> >> nature of the cytoblast before you really make a fool of yourself. > >> >> >> Again. > > >> >> > Why would I want to read what some atheist says about a cytoblast? > >> >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> >> What makes you think that only atheists have studied fetal development > >> >> or > >> >> agree with the parasitical nature of the cytoblast? > >> >> Could it perhaps be your ignorance on the subject? > > >> > The cytoblast is doing exactly what it is supposed to do. That means > >> > it is not a parasite. > >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> Parasites do exactly what they are supposed to do, and you think that > >> means > >> that they are not parasites? > >> What a strange fellow you are. > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Well, I am sorry I said something considered politically incorrect by > > parasite protection societies.  So how are your efforts to save the > > tapeworm going? > > Robert B. Winn > > Was that an attempt at humour? > it's hard to tell with you. > -- > Steve O I am always dead serious. You can be sure of that. Robert B. Winn
From: Steve O on 2 Jul 2008 16:01 "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message news:486b286c$1(a)clear.net.nz... > > To quote Radiohead: Where do we go from here? Wasn't that Haircut 100?? Actually, I think we're both right. ;-) Oops! Hang on - you're right and I'm almost right. ;-) http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/coldfeet/loveplusone.htm http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/radiohead/thebends.html -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Steve O on 2 Jul 2008 16:08 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:257908d7-8a60-4e9c-8ede-> Well, Hezekiah was probably uncomfortable when the sundial went > backward ten degrees, but he was the one who requested it. Actually, > science today would have an explanation for this that would satisfy > everyone, which is that Hezekiah was hallucinating, but on the other > hand, having studied relativity of time, I would have to say that > Hezekiah's interpretation of time on that particular day was just as > valid as anyone else's and better suited to his own personal needs. > So that sort of thing does not bother me in the least. > Robert B. Winn Meaningless word salad. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Steve O on 2 Jul 2008 16:15 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:8477a37f-f1a9-4725-a891- > > Well, if I am not mistaken, you did say that you were going to die and > decompose. That was as far as we got with your future plans. > Robert B. Winn It's not a future plan It is a future inevitability. You need to distinguish between the two. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack, Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 2 Jul 2008 16:17
On Jul 2, 9:32 pm, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "BuddyThunder" <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message > > news:486b29ee$1(a)clear.net.nz... > > > Hello? ... Hello? Paul? ..... hel-lo? ......... > > Yes, Ringo, what is it? Someone stole me wife. And a big chunk o money. Ye don't appen to know where it went to do ya? All I got is this ere plastic leg. Very peculiar. |