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From: Free Lunch on 3 Jul 2008 18:52 On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:57:37 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 2, 5:50?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:01:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jul 2, 1:32?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 05:35:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >On Jul 1, 8:49?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:14:36 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Jul 1, 1:07?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:17:22 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >On Jun 30, 3:58?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jun 29, 4:12?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jun 29, 7:07?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I did not lie. ?There actually is a conduit for water between Gihon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >spring and the pool of Siloam. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And, as you know, that is not the lie I have pointed out to you. You lie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> here by falsely and intentionally trying to distract us from the lie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> under discussion. You know that no one imposes abortion in the United >> >> >> >> >> >> >> States. That is another in a long line of lies that you refuse to repent >> >> >> >> >> >> >> of.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >The Supreme Court and other atheists imposed abortion on the United >> >> >> >> >> >> >States. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Abortion is not imposed. You know that. No one is ever forced to have an >> >> >> >> >> >> abortion by our government. Stop lying to us. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Women have been forced to have abortions in order to get welfare >> >> >> >> >> >assistance. >> >> >> >> >> >> Bullshit. Citation, please. >> >> >> >> >> >And our government still recognizes our right to trial by jury, >> >> >> >> >right? >> >> >> >> >> Nice attempt at distraction, but completely irrelevant. This has >> >> >> >> absolutely nothing to do with women being forced to have abortions in >> >> >> >> order to get welfare assistance. Which is still a completely bogus >> >> >> >> claim on your part. >> >> >> >> >> > How gullible do you think I am about "our government"? ?Or >> >> >> >> >maybe you are just including atheists when you say "our government". >> >> >> >> >> I didn't say you were gullible, I said you were lying. Your pathetic >> >> >> >> attempt to change the subject, rather than support your claim, just >> >> >> >> confirms my assessment. >> >> >> >I personally know one woman who was subjected to governmental >> >> >> >reproduction control. >> >> >> >> Was she Chinese? Seriously, put up, or shut up. You made a claim; now >> >> >> either back it up or retract it.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >Do atheists have some special program for Chinese women in the United >> >> >States? ?We know they do in China. ?However, there are a lot of women >> >> >in the United States you do not even seem to consider, women in mental >> >> >institutions, women in prisons, etc., but the one I know personally >> >> >was just a woman who applied for welfare assistance. >> >> >> IOW, you have nothing to support your claim. Thanks for clearing that >> >> up. >> >> >You are free to believe or disbelieve what I said about this woman, >> >just as you are free to believe or disbelieve anything else I say. >> >Does this seem unfair to you? >> >> What seems unclear to me is why you insist on violating your >> religion's commandment against bearing false witness. Quite frankly, >> you're insulting everyone's intelligence by telling such a transparent >> lie, although when combined with the fact that you seem to doubt >> everything anyone else tells you, however innocuous, it suggests that >> the reason might be that you're a pathological liar, projecting your >> problem onto everyone else.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Sorry, but I do personally know a woman who was given that choice. >Maybe we can all wait until we are resurrected, and I can introduce >her to you. Apparently you cannot tell the truth while you are alive.
From: Free Lunch on 3 Jul 2008 18:54 On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:15:28 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 3, 1:21?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:57:37 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jul 2, 5:50?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:01:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >On Jul 2, 1:32?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 05:35:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Jul 1, 8:49?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:14:36 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >On Jul 1, 1:07?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:17:22 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jun 30, 3:58?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jun 29, 4:12?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jun 29, 7:07?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I did not lie. ?There actually is a conduit for water between Gihon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >spring and the pool of Siloam. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And, as you know, that is not the lie I have pointed out to you. You lie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> here by falsely and intentionally trying to distract us from the lie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> under discussion. You know that no one imposes abortion in the United >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> States. That is another in a long line of lies that you refuse to repent >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> of.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >The Supreme Court and other atheists imposed abortion on the United >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >States. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Abortion is not imposed. You know that. No one is ever forced to have an >> >> >> >> >> >> >> abortion by our government. Stop lying to us. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Women have been forced to have abortions in order to get welfare >> >> >> >> >> >> >assistance. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bullshit. Citation, please. >> >> >> >> >> >> >And our government still recognizes our right to trial by jury, >> >> >> >> >> >right? >> >> >> >> >> >> Nice attempt at distraction, but completely irrelevant. This has >> >> >> >> >> absolutely nothing to do with women being forced to have abortions in >> >> >> >> >> order to get welfare assistance. Which is still a completely bogus >> >> >> >> >> claim on your part. >> >> >> >> >> >> > How gullible do you think I am about "our government"? ?Or >> >> >> >> >> >maybe you are just including atheists when you say "our government". >> >> >> >> >> >> I didn't say you were gullible, I said you were lying. Your pathetic >> >> >> >> >> attempt to change the subject, rather than support your claim, just >> >> >> >> >> confirms my assessment. >> >> >> >> >I personally know one woman who was subjected to governmental >> >> >> >> >reproduction control. >> >> >> >> >> Was she Chinese? Seriously, put up, or shut up. You made a claim; now >> >> >> >> either back it up or retract it.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> >Do atheists have some special program for Chinese women in the United >> >> >> >States? ?We know they do in China. ?However, there are a lot of women >> >> >> >in the United States you do not even seem to consider, women in mental >> >> >> >institutions, women in prisons, etc., but the one I know personally >> >> >> >was just a woman who applied for welfare assistance. >> >> >> >> IOW, you have nothing to support your claim. Thanks for clearing that >> >> >> up. >> >> >> >You are free to believe or disbelieve what I said about this woman, >> >> >just as you are free to believe or disbelieve anything else I say. >> >> >Does this seem unfair to you? >> >> >> What seems unclear to me is why you insist on violating your >> >> religion's commandment against bearing false witness. Quite frankly, >> >> you're insulting everyone's intelligence by telling such a transparent >> >> lie, although when combined with the fact that you seem to doubt >> >> everything anyone else tells you, however innocuous, it suggests that >> >> the reason might be that you're a pathological liar, projecting your >> >> problem onto everyone else.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >Sorry, but I do personally know a woman who was given that choice. >> >> Repeating your claim does not make it any more believable. Perhaps if >> you were to provide a detailed account of >> >> -what State and city this occurred in >> -what agency made such a demand, and >> -in what context, and on what legal or procedural basis >> >> it might be slightly more believable. Until then, it's not the >> slightest bit credible.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Uh huh, and you do not believe that it happens in China because the >atheists who run China are nice people. But you, you lying pile of feces, claimed that this happened in the United States. Of course you are also quite hateful in your implication that atheists in the United States defend the evil done in China.
From: Free Lunch on 3 Jul 2008 18:55 On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:48:13 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 2, 8:41�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Jul 2, 1:32?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 05:35:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> On Jul 1, 8:49?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:14:36 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> On Jul 1, 1:07?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:17:22 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> On Jun 30, 3:58?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 4:12?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 7:07?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >>>>>>>>>> ... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not lie. ?There actually is a conduit for water between Gihon >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> spring and the pool of Siloam. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> And, as you know, that is not the lie I have pointed out to you. You lie >> >>>>>>>>>>>> here by falsely and intentionally trying to distract us from the lie >> >>>>>>>>>>>> under discussion. You know that no one imposes abortion in the United >> >>>>>>>>>>>> States. That is another in a long line of lies that you refuse to repent >> >>>>>>>>>>>> of.- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court and other atheists imposed abortion on the United >> >>>>>>>>>>> States. >> >>>>>>>>>> Abortion is not imposed. You know that. No one is ever forced to have an >> >>>>>>>>>> abortion by our government. Stop lying to us. >> >>>>>>>>> Women have been forced to have abortions in order to get welfare >> >>>>>>>>> assistance. >> >>>>>>>> Bullshit. Citation, please. >> >>>>>>> And our government still recognizes our right to trial by jury, >> >>>>>>> right? >> >>>>>> Nice attempt at distraction, but completely irrelevant. This has >> >>>>>> absolutely nothing to do with women being forced to have abortions in >> >>>>>> order to get welfare assistance. Which is still a completely bogus >> >>>>>> claim on your part. >> >>>>>>> How gullible do you think I am about "our government"? ?Or >> >>>>>>> maybe you are just including atheists when you say "our government". >> >>>>>> I didn't say you were gullible, I said you were lying. Your pathetic >> >>>>>> attempt to change the subject, rather than support your claim, just >> >>>>>> confirms my assessment. >> >>>>> I personally know one woman who was subjected to governmental >> >>>>> reproduction control. >> >>>> Was she Chinese? Seriously, put up, or shut up. You made a claim; now >> >>>> either back it up or retract it.- Hide quoted text - >> >>> Do atheists have some special program for Chinese women in the United >> >>> States? ?We know they do in China. ?However, there are a lot of women >> >>> in the United States you do not even seem to consider, women in mental >> >>> institutions, women in prisons, etc., but the one I know personally >> >>> was just a woman who applied for welfare assistance. >> >> IOW, you have nothing to support your claim. Thanks for clearing that >> >> up.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > You are free to believe or disbelieve what I said about this woman, >> > just as you are free to believe or disbelieve anything else I say. >> > Does this seem unfair to you? >> >> Fair enough, but you must then submit to your lies being called lies. >> That's freedom of speech for ya!- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >I do not have to submit to anything. What you do is your problem, not >mine. You tell lies. That is your problem, not mine.
From: Free Lunch on 3 Jul 2008 18:57 On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:26:00 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 2, 2:15�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Jul 1, 8:49?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:14:36 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> On Jul 1, 1:07?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:17:22 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> On Jun 30, 3:58?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> On Jun 29, 4:12?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 7:07?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >>>>>>>> ... >> >>>>>>>>>>> I did not lie. ?There actually is a conduit for water between Gihon >> >>>>>>>>>>> spring and the pool of Siloam. >> >>>>>>>>>> And, as you know, that is not the lie I have pointed out to you. You lie >> >>>>>>>>>> here by falsely and intentionally trying to distract us from the lie >> >>>>>>>>>> under discussion. You know that no one imposes abortion in the United >> >>>>>>>>>> States. That is another in a long line of lies that you refuse to repent >> >>>>>>>>>> of.- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court and other atheists imposed abortion on the United >> >>>>>>>>> States. >> >>>>>>>> Abortion is not imposed. You know that. No one is ever forced to have an >> >>>>>>>> abortion by our government. Stop lying to us. >> >>>>>>> Women have been forced to have abortions in order to get welfare >> >>>>>>> assistance. >> >>>>>> Bullshit. Citation, please. >> >>>>> And our government still recognizes our right to trial by jury, >> >>>>> right? >> >>>> Nice attempt at distraction, but completely irrelevant. This has >> >>>> absolutely nothing to do with women being forced to have abortions in >> >>>> order to get welfare assistance. Which is still a completely bogus >> >>>> claim on your part. >> >>>>> How gullible do you think I am about "our government"? ?Or >> >>>>> maybe you are just including atheists when you say "our government". >> >>>> I didn't say you were gullible, I said you were lying. Your pathetic >> >>>> attempt to change the subject, rather than support your claim, just >> >>>> confirms my assessment. >> >>> I personally know one woman who was subjected to governmental >> >>> reproduction control. >> >> Was she Chinese? Seriously, put up, or shut up. You made a claim; now >> >> either back it up or retract it.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > Do atheists have some special program for Chinese women in the United >> > States? �We know they do in China. �However, there are a lot of women >> > in the United States you do not even seem to consider, women in mental >> > institutions, women in prisons, etc., but the one I know personally >> > was just a woman who applied for welfare assistance. >> >> Playing a slippery game, aren't you Robert? ;-)- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >I am not playing a game. Atheists run China, and women in China >definitely do get government ordered abortions. It's a bit more complex than that, none of this has anything to do with atheism as you must know, but since you are someone who has a third-grade understanding of the world and your religion, I can understand how you got confused. >It also happens here in the United States. You keep claiming this. You appear to be lying. If you were not lying, you would have been pointing us to evidence.
From: Free Lunch on 3 Jul 2008 18:59
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:49:19 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 2, 8:41�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Jul 2, 2:15 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >>> On Jul 1, 8:49?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:14:36 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> On Jul 1, 1:07?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:17:22 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> On Jun 30, 3:58?pm, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 4:12?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 7:07?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:06:07 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >>>>>>>>>> ... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not lie. ?There actually is a conduit for water between Gihon >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> spring and the pool of Siloam. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> And, as you know, that is not the lie I have pointed out to you. You lie >> >>>>>>>>>>>> here by falsely and intentionally trying to distract us from the lie >> >>>>>>>>>>>> under discussion. You know that no one imposes abortion in the United >> >>>>>>>>>>>> States. That is another in a long line of lies that you refuse to repent >> >>>>>>>>>>>> of.- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court and other atheists imposed abortion on the United >> >>>>>>>>>>> States. >> >>>>>>>>>> Abortion is not imposed. You know that. No one is ever forced to have an >> >>>>>>>>>> abortion by our government. Stop lying to us. >> >>>>>>>>> Women have been forced to have abortions in order to get welfare >> >>>>>>>>> assistance. >> >>>>>>>> Bullshit. Citation, please. >> >>>>>>> And our government still recognizes our right to trial by jury, >> >>>>>>> right? >> >>>>>> Nice attempt at distraction, but completely irrelevant. This has >> >>>>>> absolutely nothing to do with women being forced to have abortions in >> >>>>>> order to get welfare assistance. Which is still a completely bogus >> >>>>>> claim on your part. >> >>>>>>> How gullible do you think I am about "our government"? ?Or >> >>>>>>> maybe you are just including atheists when you say "our government". >> >>>>>> I didn't say you were gullible, I said you were lying. Your pathetic >> >>>>>> attempt to change the subject, rather than support your claim, just >> >>>>>> confirms my assessment. >> >>>>> I personally know one woman who was subjected to governmental >> >>>>> reproduction control. >> >>>> Was she Chinese? Seriously, put up, or shut up. You made a claim; now >> >>>> either back it up or retract it.- Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>> Do atheists have some special program for Chinese women in the United >> >>> States? �We know they do in China. �However, there are a lot of women >> >>> in the United States you do not even seem to consider, women in mental >> >>> institutions, women in prisons, etc., but the one I know personally >> >>> was just a woman who applied for welfare assistance. >> >> Playing a slippery game, aren't you Robert? ;-)- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > I am not playing a game. �Atheists run China, and women in China >> > definitely do get government ordered abortions. �It also happens here >> > in the United States. >> >> Can you cite for either case?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >As I said, believe what you want to believe. I do not care what you >believe. I am persuaded by the evidence you produced that you are a liar who celebrates being called a liar. |