Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 4 Jul 2008 00:44 On Jul 3, 5:32�pm, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:9fadb87c-6364-49eb-9ca6-c8fd555f6cd3(a)a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 3, 6:05?am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in > > the presence of God than with the devils in hell. > > > =========== > > > In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is > > to aim for hell in the first place. ?Nice morality .... > > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. �However, atheists claim > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. > > ========== > > Sin is a social construct. �It exists irrespective of the god(s) worshipped > ... or not, as the case may be. Well, there is no sin in heaven. Maybe that is why atheists do not want to go there. Robert B. Winn
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 4 Jul 2008 00:50 On Jul 4, 2:29 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 3, 3:52�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:57:37 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > > in alt.atheism: > > >> the reason might be that you're a pathological liar, projecting your > > >> problem onto everyone else.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > >Sorry, but I do personally know a woman who was given that choice. > > >Maybe we can all wait until we are resurrected, and I can introduce > > >her to you. > > > Apparently you cannot tell the truth while you are alive.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I can tell the truth. No atheist can accept it. As Paul said, they > will be unable to endure sound doctrine, but will heap unto themselves > teachers, having itching ears. > Robert B. Winn We're sure you're capable of telling the truth. We just doubt that you will any time soon. Joining the growing collection of people adding you to the killfile. Bye! Al
From: rbwinn on 4 Jul 2008 00:58 On Jul 3, 6:02 pm, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 3, 7:54 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 2, 1:15�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:8477a37f-f1a9-4725-a891- > > > > > Well, if I am not mistaken, you did say that you were going to die and > > > > decompose. �That was as far as we got with your future plans. > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > It's not a future plan > > > It is a future inevitability. > > > You need to distinguish between the two. > > > > -- > > > Steve O > > > a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > > > B.A.A.W.A. > > > Convicted by Earthquack, > > > Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence > > > "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the > > > face, you can see a burnt tortilla" > > > Well, I think that you will discover that your spirit does not stay in > > your body after you die.  As I understand it, you want yours to > > decompose with your physical body. > > Rober B. Winn > > The spirit you are talking about is the consciousness of human when > his biological body is functioning, helped by his live brain wave and > aided by various body sensors. > When a person dies, his body cells die too and the consciousness (no > spirit) stop to be generated. > That is how biological living cells worked, in human at least. > You loons and bigots take consciousness as souls and spirit which can > exist after death. > There is no such thing as soul or spirit.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, so you think it is a mistake to believe in a soul. Why would it be a mistake? Even if it were as you say, the person is motivated to live a better life than by just believing in the management of the creature. The worst a person could do by believing in a soul would be to live a better life. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 4 Jul 2008 01:02 On Jul 3, 6:39 pm, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 3, 9:43 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 3, 6:05�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > > >news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com.... > > > > Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in > > > the presence of God than with the devils in hell. > > > > =========== > > > > In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is > > > to aim for hell in the first place. �Nice morality .... > > > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins.  However, atheists claim > > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. > > Robert B. Winn > > So, what you have written so far is sin, please repent fast, real > fast. > However, since you loons always can ask for forgiveness, whatever sin > committed never matters. > We, OTOH, always careful to make sure we do the lawful and un-sinful > things. > That is the real difference between loons and atheists (or normal > people).- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Right. So when atheist Josef Stalin killed 12 million people, he was careful to do it in the lawful and un-sinful way. Robert B. Winn
From: hhyapster on 4 Jul 2008 01:49
On Jul 4, 12:29 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 3, 3:52�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:57:37 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > > in alt.atheism: > > >> the reason might be that you're a pathological liar, projecting your > > >> problem onto everyone else.- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > >Sorry, but I do personally know a woman who was given that choice. > > >Maybe we can all wait until we are resurrected, and I can introduce > > >her to you. > > > Apparently you cannot tell the truth while you are alive.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I can tell the truth. No atheist can accept it. As Paul said, they > will be unable to endure sound doctrine, but will heap unto themselves > teachers, having itching ears. > Robert B. Winn The trouble is, truth is the least in your mind. Or you choose to be blind. |