Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 3 Jul 2008 20:41 On Jul 4, 1:24 am, "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_man...(a)aon.at> wrote: > Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote: > > > > p.S.: I don't remind atheists when writing about god..... good Luck! > > > > -- > > > And yet you still post gibberish into alt.atheism. > > > Al > > Oh yes, really? Sorry, I'll fix that.... > > hmmmm, you do the same.... heh, that's a trick.. haha ;-) Nice one! > try it again!!! > > Best regards, > > Danie Mandic You seem to have meneged some basic sentence structure this time, mixed with some non-sentences, but at least they were still vaguely English. Now, the next trick is to have the sentence convey some information. Rather than just trying to convince people you're going through a manic stage with some attention deficit disorder. Al
From: hhyapster on 3 Jul 2008 21:02 On Jul 3, 7:54 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 2, 1:15�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:8477a37f-f1a9-4725-a891- > > > > Well, if I am not mistaken, you did say that you were going to die and > > > decompose. �That was as far as we got with your future plans. > > > Robert B. Winn > > > It's not a future plan > > It is a future inevitability. > > You need to distinguish between the two. > > > -- > > Steve O > > a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > > B.A.A.W.A. > > Convicted by Earthquack, > > Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence > > "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the > > face, you can see a burnt tortilla" > > Well, I think that you will discover that your spirit does not stay in > your body after you die. As I understand it, you want yours to > decompose with your physical body. > Rober B. Winn The spirit you are talking about is the consciousness of human when his biological body is functioning, helped by his live brain wave and aided by various body sensors. When a person dies, his body cells die too and the consciousness (no spirit) stop to be generated. That is how biological living cells worked, in human at least. You loons and bigots take consciousness as souls and spirit which can exist after death. There is no such thing as soul or spirit.
From: Smiler on 3 Jul 2008 21:36 "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message news:6d24ikFfblnU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message > news:a3debf6a-1527-4781-86f8-f3b676478f8e(a)y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 1, 1:03?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > >>> >>> > I never argue, Steve. If you want to be an atheist, that is your >>> > privilege. I was just curious about what you were going to do after >>> > you die. >>> > Robert B. Winn >>> >>> Well, I was planning on decomposing, just like everyone else. >>> >>> -- >>> Steve O >> >> Well, that is quite a plan. What do you do after you are decomposed? > > You mean you don't know? > This is the beautiful part. > You become fertilizer, and could end up as food for, say, a flower or a > blade of grass. > The actual molecules and atoms from your ashes would be utilized by the > flower to grow. > You would physically become part of that flower , which in turn could be > eaten by an animal, and could be converted into part of that animal. > Here's the amazing part - this has happened to you thousands and thousands > of times in the past before you were born and will happen again thousands > and thousands of times after you die. > > So here is the beautiful, undeniable truth- the particles of your body > have been around for the entire life of the universe. They are spending > the blink of an eye in the pattern known as 'you'. > > Make the most of it. > There is always the chance you could end up as a dog turd and just dry up > and blow away. > > (with thanks to Brian Cox) > Whadya mean 'end up as'? Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: hhyapster on 3 Jul 2008 21:39 On Jul 3, 9:43 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 3, 6:05�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:f807e4d0-b40f-4cb8-bb4c-12f00021898d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > Well, the scriptures say that the wicked would be more miserable in > > the presence of God than with the devils in hell. > > > =========== > > > In other words, since we are all sinful by definition, the smart choice is > > to aim for hell in the first place. �Nice morality .... > > No, the smart choice is to repent of sins. However, atheists claim > that nothing they do is sin, so they are not going to repent. > Robert B. Winn So, what you have written so far is sin, please repent fast, real fast. However, since you loons always can ask for forgiveness, whatever sin committed never matters. We, OTOH, always careful to make sure we do the lawful and un-sinful things. That is the real difference between loons and atheists (or normal people).
From: Smiler on 3 Jul 2008 21:46
"rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:32128d3b-a7e8-4746-9375-cb1f60a127be(a)k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On Jul 2, 2:03 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 1, 11:59 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 1, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 1, 12:20 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jun 30, 1:19?pm, Enkidu <fox_rgf...(a)trashmail.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in news:22183802-cf28-4305-af11- > >>>>>>>> 7d254b106...(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: > >>>>>>>>> You are the one being deliberately obtuse. ? The existence of > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> tunnel validates many other things said in the Bible about the > >>>>>>>>> Assyrian invasion of Judea. > >>>>>>>> "The Hobbit" talks of ale, axes, and forests which we know exist. > >>>>>>>> Does that > >>>>>>>> validate Orcs, Elves, Dwarves, trolls, magic rings, walking trees > >>>>>>>> and Tom > >>>>>>>> Bombadil? > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Enkidu AA#2165 ? > >>>>>>>> EAC Chaplain and ordained minister, > >>>>>>>> ULC, Modesto, CA > >>>>>>>> Doesn't anything socialistic make you want to throw up? Like > >>>>>>>> great public > >>>>>>>> schools, or health insurance for all? > >>>>>>>> ? ? ?-Kurt Vonnegut > >>>>>>> Why don't you decide for yourself? You were the one who thought of > >>>>>>> it. > >>>>>> Why don't you try to defend your assertions? How can we know we can > >>>>>> trust what you say?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>> It does not matter to me what you trust. You decide what you are > >>>>> going to trust. > >>>> If you can't provide any sensible reason to believe your fanciful > >>>> claims, then I guess we're done.- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> Fanciful claims? I said that the Jews dug a tunnel as a conduit for > >>> water between Gihon spring and the pool of Siloam. Why do you think > >>> that is a fanciful claim? > >> That is not a fanciful claim. You and I both know that I'm referring to > >> your supernatural claims. Those would be the ones you're completely > >> unable to support with any evidence.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I have not made any claims to atheists except that the Jews dug a > > tunnel to be used as a conduit for water, and the Assyrians built a > > ramp out of dirt to get over the city wall at Lachish. To an atheist > > these might seem like supernatural claims because there were actually > > people working to accomplish both of these tasks instead of just > > giving orders, criticism, etc., the way atheists do. Since atheists > > have been unable to visualize these two events, there is no reason to > > proceed on to anything more complex. > > Then we're in total agreement. A tunnel was dug a long time ago and it > got mentioned in some ancient writings, providing absolutlely no support > for any supernatural claims. > > So why all the posts?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You do not seem to be visualizing it very well. The Assyrians came into Judea with an army of hundreds of thousands on their way home after taking a big chunk of Egypt. Judea was a little dot in the middle of the Assyrian kingdom, which extended from the Caspian Sea to Egypt. So why was there still a Kingdom of Judea when King Sennacherib got back to his capitol city of Ninevah? Sennacherib himself says there was on the column he had erected in Ninevah. ---------------------------------------------------------------- You believe what Sennacherib had written on that column? Before you said that his account was false. Make up your mind. Was he telling the truth or was he lying like you? Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279 |