Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: BuddyThunder on 22 Jul 2008 16:07 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 11:54 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was >>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. >>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in >>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. >>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. >>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were >>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the >>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it >>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not >>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? >>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He >>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that >>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you >>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well >>>>>>> documented. >>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism? >>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been >>>>> a Christian by atheists of today. >>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to >>>> atheism? >>>> -- >>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will >>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim >>> they were. >>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? >> Hey they were also men, which surely means that all men are muderous >> dictator types, right? Unless all atheists aren't all bad either?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > All atheists are bad. As Pauls said, there is none good, no not one. > He was speaking of all men, not just atheists. <smirk> Slippery godbot!
From: BuddyThunder on 22 Jul 2008 16:19 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 21, 12:11 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 9:59�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>> news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>> �There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ: >>>> Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself. >>>> ======== >>>> Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs. >>>> (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear). >>> Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other person, >>> since he is contributing to that person's damnation. >> No evidence backs up this silly claim. >> >> Why don't you take it up with Einstein when he returns, that idea has >> nothing to do with me.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Why would Einstein be interested in homosexuality? Why would Jesus?
From: Alex W. on 22 Jul 2008 19:09 "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message news:48864044$1(a)clear.net.nz... > There is no sin. It's a silly idea that you haven't been able to back up > at all. I just believe that people should be free to go about their lives > free of inexplicable religious bigotry. If you don't think you fall into > that category, then explain yourself. Otherwise worry about your own > failings before the perceived ones of others. Sorry, mate, you're wrong on this one. There is sin. Sin is an infraction of the moral code; it is a social construct.
From: James Burns on 22 Jul 2008 19:15 pbamvv(a)worldonline.nl wrote: [...] > Supposing others are ignorant, is really silly, as > they are not. There are atheists out there, who know > the bible better than you or me! > > So do not try and preach your faith to them, > try and practise it! > That they might appreciate. I agree. One of my favorite quotes: "Preach the gospel every day; use words, if necessary." It's widely attributed to St. Francis of Assisi. Jim Burns
From: Tim Ward on 23 Jul 2008 04:10
"Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message news:6en6eqF7p48jU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > Sometimes, the terminally stupid need to have things explained to them. Waste of time. Terminal stupidity is terminal stupidity. "Stupidity was always a capital offence." "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Tim Ward Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk |