Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Steve O on 22 Jul 2008 13:04 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 21, 10:08�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. >> >> >> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some evidence >> of >> God as well. >> >> -- >> Steve O > > God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. If that was not enough for > you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything. > Robert B. Winn Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God? Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all, it's just an old, old story. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: Steve O on 22 Jul 2008 13:05 "The Chief Instigator" <patrick(a)io.com> wrote in message news:szkk5feb05l.fsf(a)eris.io.com... > rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> writes: >> >> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. If that was not enough for >> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything. > > Sacre m�rde...this supposed god sent Steve? Funny, how your holy book has > been in error for only a couple of thousand years... LOL! I missed that one - thanks for pointing it out. I knew I'd been put here for a higher purpose!! -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
From: Alex W. on 22 Jul 2008 13:03 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:e9d6209a-9364-4d10-b70e-8264e423906b(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... On Jul 21, 7:03 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Jul 21, 5:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > All atheists have European values. The difference between European > > values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist > > to serve governments. Americans believe that governments exist to > > serve people. > > Robert B. Winn > > What an enormous load of bollocks. The idea of the rights of the > individual (in western society) came from centuries of slow painful > progress by Europeans. > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - So why were the greatest atrocities in Europe in the last century? ================ Were they? Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Cultural Revolution. Rwanda. Cambodia. Celine Dion.
From: BuddyThunder on 22 Jul 2008 16:06 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 21, 12:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in >>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. >>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were >>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the >>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it >>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not >>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? >>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He >>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that >>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you >>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well >>>>>>>> documented. >>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism? >>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been >>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today. >>>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to >>>>> atheism? >>>>> -- >>>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will >>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim >>>> they were. >>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? >>>> Robert B. Winn >>> Yes. Personal responsibility. I'm not Pol Pot, nor am I Joseph >>> Stalin. Nor do they represent normal atheists. >>> If you want to take responsibility for all crimes committed by >>> religious people, feel free. There's plenty butchers in that camp. >> Exactly, I never really understood the smear campaigns. I am only >> responsible for my own actions, a responsibility I happily accept. I >> cannot be held responsible for atrocities committed before I was born, >> no matter how similar the perp's worldview is to mine. >> >> I've never killed anyone, and I don't intend to.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > That is very commendable. Pol Pot was just an unassuming person also > until he became a Communist dictator. It didn't work with Joseph Stalin, it won't work with Pol Pot. You are religiously insane. I won't compare you to any historical figure, as it's pointless and irrelevant. I'll just state the assertion and cite this thread as evidence.
From: Stan-O on 22 Jul 2008 16:07
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:03:34 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> - Show quoted text - > >So why were the greatest atrocities in Europe in the last century? > >================ > >Were they? > >Hiroshima and Nagasaki. >The Cultural Revolution. >Rwanda. >Cambodia. >Celine Dion. If you are going to go that route, add Pauly Shore and Carrot Top to the list.... |