Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Stan-O on 30 Jul 2008 06:32 On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:48:05 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> So what is the matter? ?Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. ?They will >> >>>>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim >> >>>>>>> they were. >> >>>>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? >> >>>>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me? ?Now, back onto the question >> >>>>>> you are REFUSING to answer: >> >>>>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the >> >>>>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism? >> >>>>> Stalin was an atheist. ?His values and beliefs were much like yours >> >>>>> are today. >> >>>>> Robert B. Winn >> >>>> Torquemada was a christian. ?His values and beliefs were much like >> >>>> yours are today. ?And you're doing your best to make us all see the >> >>>> point of shooting christians. ?You really are. >> >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >> >>> Well, let's talk about those feelings, Al. ?Pol Pot was just an >> >>> unassuming atheistic school teacher until he became a Communist >> >>> dictator. >> >> So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism? >> >> What does atheism have to do with it? >> >> > Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator >> > was being an atheist. >> >> Why? >> >Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people. >Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators. ....and to think that Marx himself was Jewish...
From: Stan-O on 30 Jul 2008 06:34 On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:13:49 -0700, DanielSan <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist. >>>>>>>>> So, is it also relevant to masculinity? ?Stalin was a man, after all... >>>>>>>>> ? Stalin also had a mustache. ?Is that relevant, too? >>>>>>>>> Oh, Stalin was also born in December. ?Is that relevant? >>>>>>>>> Stalin married a wife. ?Is that relevant? >>>>>>>> Why don't you just decide for yourself what you think is relevant, >>>>>>>> Daniel? >>>>>>> How about none of it being relevant? >>>>>> Well, you get to decide for yourself. ?Don't be bashful. >>>>> Fine. ?He's a man. ?You're a man. ?I decide that you and Stalin are the >>>>> same. >>>>> Happy? >>>> I am happy. ?Josef Stalin was another story. >>> Okay, Mr Stalin. ?May I call you Stalin from now on? >>> >>> -- >> As far as I am concerned, you can do whatever you decide to do. I do >> not pay any attention to what you do. > >This is obviously wrong since you're paying attention to what I post. :-) Just one more thing that Winn has lied about...
From: Steve O on 30 Jul 2008 08:39 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7(a)m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 22, 10:04�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. >> >> >> >> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? >> >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some >> >> evidence >> >> of >> >> God as well. >> >> >> -- >> >> Steve O >> >> > God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. �If that was not enough for >> > you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God? >> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all, >> it's >> just an old, old story. >> >> -- >> Steve O > > Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. The bible isn't evidence of anything- it's story with so- called magical events included in it. We keep telling you that, but you don't listen. The actual tunnel itself is evidence, not the book that mentions it.. > different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of > Hezekiah's tunnel. > Robert B. Winn Different books of the Old Testament describe sheep, too. Why do you think either description is significant or important? You haven't told us yet. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence >
From: rbwinn on 30 Jul 2008 08:40 On Jul 22, 4:36�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> > >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >> >> >> ... > > >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it. > > >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. > > >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it. > > >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. > > >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait > >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the > >> >> >twelve? > > >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making > >> >> a fool of yourself. > > >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. > > >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad > >> >> example.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an > >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of > >> >today say he was not. > > >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in > >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a > >> claim you made up that was not true. > > >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Acts 14:14 �Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they > >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. > > So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'. > > Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god would be > embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted text - > Paul was one of the twelve. He was ordained when James the son of Zebedee was killed by Herod. The apostles kept the quorum at twelve until Peter was crucified in Rome, then one by one all of the apostles were killed. You are claiming that because some translators misused the term apostle that the apostles would have been controlled by that future mis-translation. It does not work that way, just as the disbelief of atheists today did not control the existence of Jesus Christ. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 30 Jul 2008 08:42
On Jul 22, 4:58�am, The Chief Instigator <patr...(a)io.com> wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> writes: > > On Jul 21, 10:08�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com.... > > >> >> >God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. > > >> >> You have no evidence at all about God. > > >> > Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible? > >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some evidence > >> of God as well. > > > God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. �If that was not enough for > > you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything. > > Sacre m�rde...this supposed god sent Steve? �Funny, how your holy book has > been in error for only a couple of thousand years... > > -- > � �Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...(a)io.com) �Houston, Texas > � � �www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php�(TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273 > � � � � � � � � �LAST GAME: �Rockford 5, Houston 2 (April 25) > � � � � � � NEXT GAME: �The 2008-09 season opener in early October- Hide quoted text - > Well, the Bible says that in the last days there will be many false Christs. Now you have Steve being one of them. Robert B. Winn |