Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: BuddyThunder on 28 Jun 2008 03:40 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 27, 7:02�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> Chris Shore wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>> news:621f5b5c-8511-45b7-ae9f-03c8a9914fd5(a)s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>>> Well, they do now that I have brought up the subject of Hezekiah's >>>> tunnel and the earthen ramp, which can both be seen today. �Before >>>> that, they were saying there was nothing in the Bible that was not >>>> mythology and nothing in the Bible that could be proven. �Atheists say >>>> whatever they think will fly. �It just so happened that I knew about >>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, so what they usually say was not sufficient for >>>> this conversation. �So now they are saying that the Bible has some >>>> history in it, but they are not happy about having to say that. �They >>>> would rather be saying what they said when this conversation started, >>>> that the Bible is nothing but mythology. >>> Of course the Bibel has some history in it. And of course some of it >>> is verifiable. So are various parts of various other ancient texts from >>> other >>> ancient historical/religious cultures. This prove absolutely nothing. >> How is this difficult to understand? Three thousand posts suggest that >> it is.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, there you go again denying the existence of Hezekiah's tunnel. > The existence of Hezekiah's tunnel proves that the Bible is accurate > aboput there being a conduit for water between Gihon Spring and the > Pool of Siloam. And once more, there goes London. The existence of London proves that Harry Potter is accurate about there being a city of roughly 7.5 million people in the South East of England. Um, so what?
From: Alex W. on 28 Jun 2008 06:48 "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message news:4865beb0$1(a)clear.net.nz... > Is this what you think? > > 1. Hezekiah's tunnel is described in the Bible. > 2. Hezekiah's tunnel really exists. > 3. Therefore, God exists. Hmmm.... 1. Blackwell Tunnel is described on my London map. 2. Blackwell Tunnel really exists. 3. Therefore, Blackwell the bookseller really exists! 1.I read about the Channel Tunnel in the newspaper. 2.The Channel Tunnel really exists. 3.Therefore, the Channel really exists. Hey, this logic stuff really isn't as difficult as I thought!
From: Alex W. on 28 Jun 2008 07:47 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:7340aaa1-4396-4aad-9531-fc1d9bd2d6d2(a)v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com... Atheists do not normally have children. If they are going to have children, they usually kill them before they are born, so I have only met adult atheists. They are the ones who believe in Harry Potter. ========== Children become atheists the moment they realise Santa Claus does not exist.
From: Alex W. on 28 Jun 2008 07:47 "BuddyThunder" <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in message news:4865bc76$1(a)clear.net.nz... > rbwinn wrote: >> >> Atheists do not normally have children. If they are going to have >> children, they usually kill them before they are born, so I have only >> met adult atheists. They are the ones who believe in Harry Potter. > > Yeah, then we eat the foetus. Then we prowl the neighbourhood looking for > small Christian children. Then we torture them into renouncing their gods, > then we eat them too. You're priceless! Where does that leave vegetarian atheists, I wonder?
From: rbwinn on 28 Jun 2008 09:25
On Jun 27, 7:57 pm, "t...(a)noburn.net" <tom.te...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 27, 10:06 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 5:58�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > "Jack" <furgfurgf...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > >news:f8GdnUtAK5PIcPnVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d(a)posted.echolabs... > > > > >> I am upset by *people* who > > > >> believe that the Bible is anything more than mythology and try �to impose > > > >> their > > > >> beliefs on me �using the Bible as evidence. > > > > > How can someone impose a belief on you? �Just believe whatever you want to > > > > believe. > > > > Did you not notice the word "try" in there? > > > Aren't those who knock on my door trying to impose their beliefs on me? > > > Aren't those who demand creationism/ID are taught in science classes trying > > > to impose their beliefs on children? > > > Aren't those who are trying to turn the US into a theocracy trying to impose > > > their beliefs on all US citizens? > > > Don't parents, who indoctrinate their children with their own religion, try > > > to impose their beliefs on their children? > > > > Smiler, > > > The godless one > > > a.a.# 2279 > > > Don't atheists try to impose atheism on everyone?  So everyone is > > trying to impose.  Well, let's see who is the best at imposing, an > > imposing constest, as it were. > > Actually, imposing is a false teaching.  Christianity teaches free > > agency. > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > >   There's nothing 'free' taught in christianity, you either pay with > your soul or your intelligence..either way...christianity is the > ultimate submission to a fable...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, atheists are as free as anyone else to consider the evidence and decide what they believe. The fact that they made the wrong choice is a problem for them, but what they need to realize is that the principle of repentance is just as available to them as it is to anyone else. Robert B. Winn |