From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45290916.D436AC9C(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>
>> >There isn't "tapping" anyway. The NSA monitors phone calls. ALL phone
>> calls.
>> > Computers flag those with certain words or phrases, or certain voices, or
>> >certain locales, etc. But we have no way of knowing which things cause
calls
>> >to get flagged, nor do we have any assurance nobody is looking at the
others.
>>
>> I wonder how many MIPS it would take to do all that you specify above.
>
>MIPS are dift cheap now. Think TIPS instead.

It doesn't matter how cheap they are. Is there enough in
the universe to fulfill the specification above?

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <Afadne_3eO3dY7XYnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
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><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:egaj1m$8qk_002(a)s779.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <GtidnRHJ2eFoSbXYnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:egafn9$8ss_004(a)s779.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>>> In article <eg5ts4$70s$15(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>>>In article <eg58fu$8ss_015(a)s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>In article <ZQ8Vg.19638$Ij.7364(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
>>>>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> People start to lose perspective on what
>>>>>>>>>is happening and why. It really is a very powerful narcotic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> People can also lose perspective if they assume that Bush
>>>>>>>> is always wrong and is the cause of all ills which is the
>>>>>>>> only thing you hear from his political opposition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't. I evaluate critically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This causes a lot of people to overlook the fact that these
>>>>>>>> same politicians do not intend to deal with the threat
>>>>>>>> to the nation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why do you assume that they "do not intend to deal with the threat"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They say so. Whenever asked for specifics, the Democrat leadership
>>>>>>replies with, "Trust me."
>>>>>
>>>>>Anything is better than "stay the course."
>>>>
>>>> So you are saying that conceding to the Islamic terrorists is
>>>> better?
>>>
>>>Are there only two options?
>>
>> From the p.o.v. of the extremists, yes.
>
>But the debate was not about their point of view.Your post implied that the
>choices were "stay the course" or concede to terrorists.
>
>From _your_ point of view are there only two options?

If your grocery store carries only one kind of apple, it
doesn't matter how many other vareities you want if it
is the only store carrying apples. The only way you can
get him to carry the variety you want is to convince him.
This is called changing his mindset. Until you do that,
there is no other option available to you for getting
the apple you want.

This analogy isn't going to work.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45294670.AAB6384B(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >What exactly is it that you're afraid of ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Loss of enough knowledge of how to do things that it will
>> >> >> take another 1000 years to reinvent the wheel.
>> >> >
>> >> >Are you actually serious ?
>> >>
>> >> Yes. I'm working on a 1000 year scenario and trying to shortcut
>> >> the cold start so that it will only be 500 years.
>> >
>> >In 500 years Islam will have 'grown up'.
>>
>> They are at the age that Christianity was in the 1500s.
>> I've been studying that era. Assuming (this is a big
>> assumption) that religions follow similar growing paths,
>> take the same time for each growing pain, there is going
>> to be quite a bit of mess before things gets settled down.
>
>I expect that modern global communications / media and living in each
>others' cultures will speed up the growing process very considerably.

Actually, I think it stops maturing. Go read about the tower
of Babel and how nobody got anything done. I've got a new
hypothesis about this one. When you go to work and nobody
shuts up, nothing gets done.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <452946B9.4A53D6AA(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> If the mindset of the religious extremists are not changed and
>> they become successful in destroying Western civilization.......
>
>How could they even begin to acheive this ?

You will help. I'm not make any specifications here just in
case someone hasn't thought of it.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <8XOVg.9790$GR.8862(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:eg7u2a$8qk_008(a)s968.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <eg5tpm$70s$13(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>In article <eg57l7$8ss_011(a)s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>In article <P4Kdnb9ApIGR47jYRVnyrw(a)pipex.net>,
>>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
>>>>>message
>>>>>news:qkrai2hvpp43t4lpu1ttca9tpq8ueb94qr(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:03:17 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Which one would that be, the dangers of driving on the nation's
>>>>>>>highways?
>>>>>>>That's at least 3 orders of magnitude greater of a real threat to
>>>>>>>every
>>>>>>>person in the country than is terrorism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3000 people died at the WTC. Three orders of magnitude from that is 3
>>>>>> million. We kill about 40K people a year in car accidents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>3000 people (not all of whom were US citizens) have been killed by
>>>>>Islamic
>>>>>terrorist attacks on the Mainland US in (shall we say 80 years). How
>>>>>many
>>>>>have died in car accidents in that time?
>>>>>
>>>>>That said, you are nitpicking in the same manner. More than ten times as
>>>>>many people die every year as died as a result of the 11 Sep 01 attack.
>> That
>>>>>is TEN attacks of that scale (and that was a large scale attack by
>>>>>anyone's
>>>>>standards) every single year. Year in, year out and accepted as a normal
>>>>>risk in life.
>>>>>
>>>>>Amazing really.
>>>>
>>>>So much for mess prevention. So how many people does Bin Laden
>>>>have to kill before you deal with this problem? 300,000?
>>>>3,000,000? 300,000,000? A billion?
>>>>
>>>
>>>So why aren't we devoting all our resources to getting him?
>>
>> Because this intent to destroy all traces of Western civilization
>> is not isolated to one human being.
>
>Where do you *get* these assumptions???

What assumptions? Islamic extremists wish to kill me and mine?
They've told me so. Furthermore, their statements were not
empty threats; they demonstrated their intent. Any other
pronouncements are to be taken seriously and not dismissed as
bluster.

/BAH