From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 01:32 On 14/03/2010 06:29, Winston wrote: > On 3/13/2010 9:47 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >> On 14/03/2010 05:17, Winston wrote: > > (...) > >>> Game Over. >>> >>> Was that a smart thing to do? >> >> It was for the woman who sued McD for "hot coffee". > > I may not have mentioned this but she had evidence. > Photographs of burned skin. Depositions. Opinions from > expert witnesses. 700 prior complaints. > > Evidence is very important. It allows you to proceed. > > Without evidence, people will be called kooks. > > Not that it would happen among open minded scientists > such as ourselves, you understand. > > Just generally speaking. > > :) > > Thanks for your constructive criticism. > > > --Winston For $600k I'd pour hot coffee over my hand. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Winston on 14 Mar 2010 01:46 On 3/13/2010 10:32 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: (...) > For $600k I'd pour hot coffee over my hand. She finally settled for an 'undisclosed sum'. One gets you 10 that she now owes her lawyer a very large amount of money. Is she really the best winner we can find? :) --Winston
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 01:55 On 14/03/2010 06:29, Winston wrote: > On 3/13/2010 9:47 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >> On 14/03/2010 05:17, Winston wrote: > > (...) > >>> Game Over. >>> >>> Was that a smart thing to do? >> >> It was for the woman who sued McD for "hot coffee". > > I may not have mentioned this but she had evidence. > Photographs of burned skin. Depositions. Opinions from > expert witnesses. 700 prior complaints. > > Evidence is very important. It allows you to proceed. > > Without evidence, people will be called kooks. > > Not that it would happen among open minded scientists > such as ourselves, you understand. > > Just generally speaking. > > :) > > Thanks for your constructive criticism. > > > --Winston A successful conspiracy doesn't work if it relies on several thousand McBurger managers keeping their mouths shut. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Winston on 14 Mar 2010 03:30 On 3/13/2010 10:28 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > On 14/03/2010 06:16, Winston wrote: (...) >> You say "There is no evidence that such a system as you describe >> is even possible..." > >> I say there will be no evidence that it was ever used. > > Like I said, I reviewed that paper (and others) years ago. > It does not say what you think it says. What does the paper say about the effect of (low frequency amplitude modulated) non-ionizing radiation of specific power level on neural cells, in your opinion? Have a look starting on the third paragraph on page 1088 if you would please. It starts with the line "We repeated these experiments with radiofrequency signals using sinusoidal amplitude modulation from 0.5 to 35 Hz. These radiofrequency fields coupled much more strongly into the tissue." He relates the movement of calcium ions in the brain as one of the indicators of natural inter-neural activity and as a key effect of the modulation of the non-ionizing radiation used as 'virtual electrodes' (my phrase, not Dr. Adey's). See also page 192 where Dr. Adey says "Future research may indicate that long-term human exposure to signals with these particular low-frequency characteristics should be avoided or carefully controlled." If that isn't a "hacker flag", I don't know what is. :) > And you have been talking about GHz radiation, which can be focussed > quite tightly - thats how radar works. Yes, the beam-width can be set at design time. The carrier frequency of the non-ionizing radiation appears to be unimportant. It is the power density of the radiation and the modulation waveform impressed upon it that appears to force brain tissue to respond in lock step, disregarding the natural neural inputs that are sensed before and after the customer is denied vision, hearing, consciousness and muscle control. Microwaves will merely provide a way to direct the low frequency manipulation signal away from the manager and towards the customer. Can you help me understand your point about carrier frequency and beam width please? Thanks --Winston
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 03:38
On 14/03/2010 07:30, Winston wrote: > On 3/13/2010 10:28 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >> On 14/03/2010 06:16, Winston wrote: > > (...) > >>> You say "There is no evidence that such a system as you describe >>> is even possible..." >> >>> I say there will be no evidence that it was ever used. >> >> Like I said, I reviewed that paper (and others) years ago. >> It does not say what you think it says. > > What does the paper say about the effect of (low frequency > amplitude modulated) non-ionizing radiation of specific power > level on neural cells, in your opinion? > > Have a look starting on the third paragraph on page 1088 if > you would please. It starts with the line "We repeated these > experiments with radiofrequency signals using sinusoidal > amplitude modulation from 0.5 to 35 Hz. These radiofrequency > fields coupled much more strongly into the tissue." > > He relates the movement of calcium ions in the brain > as one of the indicators of natural inter-neural > activity and as a key effect of the modulation > of the non-ionizing radiation used as 'virtual electrodes' > (my phrase, not Dr. Adey's). > > See also page 192 where Dr. Adey says "Future research > may indicate that long-term human exposure to signals with > these particular low-frequency characteristics should be > avoided or carefully controlled." > > If that isn't a "hacker flag", I don't know what is. :) > >> And you have been talking about GHz radiation, which can be focussed >> quite tightly - thats how radar works. > > Yes, the beam-width can be set at design time. > > The carrier frequency of the non-ionizing radiation appears to > be unimportant. It is the power density of the radiation and > the modulation waveform impressed upon it that appears to > force brain tissue to respond in lock step, disregarding the > natural neural inputs that are sensed before and after the > customer is denied vision, hearing, consciousness and muscle > control. > > Microwaves will merely provide a way to direct the low frequency > manipulation signal away from the manager and towards the customer. > > Can you help me understand your point about carrier frequency > and beam width please? > > Thanks > > --Winston First off, Adey is warning about chronic exposure, not acute effects. Beam spread primarily depends on dish size relative to carrier wavelength. A low GHz beam can be quite spread limited with a large dish. That's the basis of conventional microwave communications. Also, for calcium ion resonance (cyclotron resonance) you also need an external magnetic field to be matched to the radiation intensity. Normally, that would be the geomagnetic field which being so weak limits the effectiveness of the intensity of the carrier. So if you really want to zap someone, you should place them in a powerful magnetic field to start with. A lot of this sort of stuff was investigated by Persinger. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show |