Microwave brain scrambler?
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From: Winston on 14 Mar 2010 00:59 On 3/13/2010 9:03 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > Er... almost none of them have had subsequent trouble. > How about the whistleblowers who brought down Enron? I may not have mentioned this but in each of those cases there was a huge pile of evidence. A paper trail here, a recording there, a deposition over this way. None of these folks would have picked up the phone if they couldn't prove to a disinterested third party the prestige of an equally powerful entity was being compromised because laws had been broken. I agree that without interviewing each one it is difficult to say how opposing council made their lives untenable as a result of the lawsuit. I have two scenarios for you: "Hello, FBI? I can prove XYZ corporation turned over blu-rays of Defense department plans to a passenger on a commercial flight that will land in Beijing Monday afternoon. I have videos of a highly placed DoD official accepting a package of Kruggerands and handing over the discs to the Chinese national while saying, 'yes Mr. Wang, this is our strategy for Taiwan in the next 60 days and it is going to be BIG!' I have a deposition from the gold dealer where the Chinese official purchased the Kruggerands and tracking information for each coin. I have decrypted recordings of the conversations that took place between the DoD official and his handler over the last six months." Compare that with this if you would please: "Hello, FBI? I think I kind of passed out for a second at my local sandwich shop. I never got my change and my wallet is now missing." They are both whistleblowers of equal importance and standing, yes? Both as likely to participate in a successful prosecution, right? Thanks for your opinions on this. --Winston
From: Winston on 14 Mar 2010 01:03 On 3/13/2010 6:17 PM, Bill Beaty wrote: > On Mar 12, 11:49 pm, Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: > ] A big dish antenna aobe a false ceiling, and the RF transmitter to > ] drive it? A bit harder to hide that a hand-gun, and ripping it out > and > ] dumping it off the bridge would be a little more obvious, and leave > ] more obvious traces, clown. > > A more pertinent point: LET THE EXPERIMENT BE MADE. Experiments > trump any hours of theoretical discussions. Existence proofs are > difficult to defeat. I may not have mentioned this but: "Adey, W. Ross, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave Radiation, Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, V.55, #11, December, 1979 Bioelectromagnetics Volume 5 Issue 1, Pages 71 - 78 Published Online: 19 Oct 2005 " Thanks for your input. --Winston
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 01:11 On 14/03/2010 05:59, Winston wrote: > On 3/13/2010 9:03 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > >> Er... almost none of them have had subsequent trouble. > >> How about the whistleblowers who brought down Enron? > > I may not have mentioned this but in each of those cases there > was a huge pile of evidence. A paper trail here, a recording > there, a deposition over this way. None of these folks > would have picked up the phone if they couldn't prove to > a disinterested third party the prestige of an equally powerful > entity was being compromised because laws had been broken. > > I agree that without interviewing each one it is difficult > to say how opposing council made their lives untenable as > a result of the lawsuit. > > I have two scenarios for you: > > "Hello, FBI? I can prove XYZ corporation turned over > blu-rays of Defense department plans to a passenger on > a commercial flight that will land in Beijing Monday > afternoon. I have videos of a highly placed DoD official > accepting a package of Kruggerands and handing over the > discs to the Chinese national while saying, 'yes Mr. Wang, > this is our strategy for Taiwan in the next 60 days and > it is going to be BIG!' > I have a deposition from the gold dealer where the Chinese > official purchased the Kruggerands and tracking information > for each coin. I have decrypted recordings of the > conversations that took place between the DoD official > and his handler over the last six months." > > Compare that with this if you would please: > > "Hello, FBI? I think I kind of passed out for a second > at my local sandwich shop. > I never got my change and my wallet is now missing." Like you said about the McD hot coffee - the complaints add up and in this case it would be far less trivial. And when Mr FBI asks the store manager what happened, such is his loyalty to the corporation that said manager will happily go to prison for obstructing the investigation. Anyway, the whole scheme of yours is just totally ludicrous from technical, legal and logistical points of view. A total non-starter. If you think otherwise, mortgage your house, build and test a device and try and sell it to MacBurger for zapping customers. See you living in a cardboard box... -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 01:12 On 14/03/2010 06:03, Winston wrote: > On 3/13/2010 6:17 PM, Bill Beaty wrote: >> On Mar 12, 11:49 pm, Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >> ] A big dish antenna aobe a false ceiling, and the RF transmitter to >> ] drive it? A bit harder to hide that a hand-gun, and ripping it out >> and >> ] dumping it off the bridge would be a little more obvious, and leave >> ] more obvious traces, clown. >> >> A more pertinent point: LET THE EXPERIMENT BE MADE. Experiments >> trump any hours of theoretical discussions. Existence proofs are >> difficult to defeat. > > I may not have mentioned this but: > > "Adey, W. Ross, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave > Radiation, Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, V.55, #11, > December, 1979 > > Bioelectromagnetics > Volume 5 Issue 1, Pages 71 - 78 > Published Online: 19 Oct 2005 " > > Thanks for your input. > > --Winston Which says nothing about knocking out people or doing anything that would have an immediate effect. I reviewed this paper several years ago. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Winston on 14 Mar 2010 01:16
On 3/13/2010 9:49 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > On 14/03/2010 05:20, Winston wrote: (...) >> Hokay, my numbers were off and it would take a power >> amplifier and / or a slightly larger antenna to kick >> enough watts through the inverse square law losses to >> deliver the necessary milliwatt where it needs to go. >> >> One point to you. >> >> I still contend that it does work and can be done for >> surprisingly little money. > > There is no evidence that such a system as you describe is even > possible, I may not have mentioned this but: Adey, W. Ross, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave Radiation, Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, V.55, #11, December, 1979 Bioelectromagnetics Volume 5 Issue 1, Pages 71 - 78 Published Online: 19 Oct 2005 > let alone ever built. And if it was possible why would it not > be deployed as a major military weapon? Inverse square law losses would restrict it to very close range use. I don't know how one would use such a tool in a military setting. You say "There is no evidence that such a system as you describe is even possible..." I say there will be no evidence that it was ever used. We are not so far apart in our thinking after all. :) --Winston |