From: Winston on 14 Mar 2010 01:18 On 3/13/2010 9:30 PM, AZ Nomad wrote: > Sounds like he's accidently beamed himself a few too many times. I'd like to thank you for your open-minded evaluation of the science behind this tool. Really, I would. :) --Winston
From: Winston on 14 Mar 2010 01:23 On 3/13/2010 9:09 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > On 14/03/2010 02:17, Bill Beaty wrote: >> On Mar 12, 11:49 pm, Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >> ] A big dish antenna aobe a false ceiling, and the RF transmitter to >> ] drive it? A bit harder to hide that a hand-gun, and ripping it out >> and >> ] dumping it off the bridge would be a little more obvious, and leave >> ] more obvious traces, clown. >> >> A more pertinent point: LET THE EXPERIMENT BE MADE. Experiments >> trump any hours of theoretical discussions. Existence proofs are >> difficult to defeat. An advanced hobbyist could build one of these >> sources and note any odd effects. Just add some pulses in series >> with a microwave magnetron's DCHV supply, or perhaps drive the >> magnetron with a TC-type spark gap or rotary gap source. The needed >> brain-exposure would be brief, and the required wattage is less than >> the exposure from older cellphones, or that encountered by Tesla-coil >> builders. >> >> Does it work as advertised? If so, then the public idea cannot be >> put back into the box, and will no doubt spread like gunpowder, or bow >> +arrow, or "hit other apes using a rock." >> >> OTOH, perhaps this thread is actually about the following... "I go >> insane whenever I eat at this particular restaurant. Since I cannot >> possibly be suffering schitzotype disorders, the actual cause must be >> that THE RESTAURANT MANAGEMENT IS AIMING BRAIN-RAYS AT ITS >> CLIENTELE!!!!!!" >> >> That's the only possible conclusion, eh? :) > >> (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) >> William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website >> billb a eskimocom http://amasci.com >> EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair >> Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci > > You poor naive fool - the Jewish Nazi Illuminati New World Order has > bought you off, haven't they! No... wait... you're a CIA shill... that's > it! It's so obvious now, and the proof will be you denying all knowledge > of the plot, and sending more harassing brainwaves. Thank you for your mature, thoughtful consideration of the science that does exist, gentlemen. :) Adey, W. Ross, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave Radiation, Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, V.55, #11, December, 1979 Bioelectromagnetics Volume 5 Issue 1, Pages 71 - 78 Published Online: 19 Oct 2005 --Winston
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 01:28 On 14/03/2010 06:16, Winston wrote: > On 3/13/2010 9:49 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >> On 14/03/2010 05:20, Winston wrote: > > (...) > >>> Hokay, my numbers were off and it would take a power >>> amplifier and / or a slightly larger antenna to kick >>> enough watts through the inverse square law losses to >>> deliver the necessary milliwatt where it needs to go. >>> >>> One point to you. >>> >>> I still contend that it does work and can be done for >>> surprisingly little money. >> >> There is no evidence that such a system as you describe is even >> possible, > > I may not have mentioned this but: > > Adey, W. Ross, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave > Radiation, Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, V.55, #11, > December, 1979 > > Bioelectromagnetics > Volume 5 Issue 1, Pages 71 - 78 > Published Online: 19 Oct 2005 > >> let alone ever built. And if it was possible why would it not >> be deployed as a major military weapon? > > Inverse square law losses would restrict it to very close range use. > I don't know how one would use such a tool in a military setting. > You say "There is no evidence that such a system as you describe > is even possible..." > I say there will be no evidence that it was ever used. Like I said, I reviewed that paper (and others) years ago. It does not say what you think it says. And you have been talking about GHz radiation, which can be focussed quite tightly - thats how radar works. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 01:29 On 14/03/2010 06:23, Winston wrote: > On 3/13/2010 9:09 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >> On 14/03/2010 02:17, Bill Beaty wrote: >>> On Mar 12, 11:49 pm, Bill Sloman<bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >>> ] A big dish antenna aobe a false ceiling, and the RF transmitter to >>> ] drive it? A bit harder to hide that a hand-gun, and ripping it out >>> and >>> ] dumping it off the bridge would be a little more obvious, and leave >>> ] more obvious traces, clown. >>> >>> A more pertinent point: LET THE EXPERIMENT BE MADE. Experiments >>> trump any hours of theoretical discussions. Existence proofs are >>> difficult to defeat. An advanced hobbyist could build one of these >>> sources and note any odd effects. Just add some pulses in series >>> with a microwave magnetron's DCHV supply, or perhaps drive the >>> magnetron with a TC-type spark gap or rotary gap source. The needed >>> brain-exposure would be brief, and the required wattage is less than >>> the exposure from older cellphones, or that encountered by Tesla-coil >>> builders. >>> >>> Does it work as advertised? If so, then the public idea cannot be >>> put back into the box, and will no doubt spread like gunpowder, or bow >>> +arrow, or "hit other apes using a rock." >>> >>> OTOH, perhaps this thread is actually about the following... "I go >>> insane whenever I eat at this particular restaurant. Since I cannot >>> possibly be suffering schitzotype disorders, the actual cause must be >>> that THE RESTAURANT MANAGEMENT IS AIMING BRAIN-RAYS AT ITS >>> CLIENTELE!!!!!!" >>> >>> That's the only possible conclusion, eh? :) >> >>> (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) >>> William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website >>> billb a eskimocom http://amasci.com >>> EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair >>> Seattle, WA 206-762-3818 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci >> >> You poor naive fool - the Jewish Nazi Illuminati New World Order has >> bought you off, haven't they! No... wait... you're a CIA shill... that's >> it! It's so obvious now, and the proof will be you denying all knowledge >> of the plot, and sending more harassing brainwaves. > > Thank you for your mature, thoughtful consideration of the science > that does exist, gentlemen. :) > > Adey, W. Ross, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave > Radiation, Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, V.55, #11, > December, 1979 > > Bioelectromagnetics > Volume 5 Issue 1, Pages 71 - 78 > Published Online: 19 Oct 2005 > > > --Winston http://www.neopax.com/technomage/TechnoMageContents.pdf Chapter 9 -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Winston on 14 Mar 2010 01:29
On 3/13/2010 9:47 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > On 14/03/2010 05:17, Winston wrote: (...) >> Game Over. >> >> Was that a smart thing to do? > > It was for the woman who sued McD for "hot coffee". I may not have mentioned this but she had evidence. Photographs of burned skin. Depositions. Opinions from expert witnesses. 700 prior complaints. Evidence is very important. It allows you to proceed. Without evidence, people will be called kooks. Not that it would happen among open minded scientists such as ourselves, you understand. Just generally speaking. :) Thanks for your constructive criticism. --Winston |