Microwave brain scrambler?
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From: Bill Sloman on 14 Mar 2010 10:07 On Mar 14, 9:18 am, Winston <Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote: > On 3/13/2010 10:11 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > > > On 14/03/2010 05:59, Winston wrote: > > (...) > > >> Compare that with this if you would please: > > >> "Hello, FBI? I think I kind of passed out for a second > >> at my local sandwich shop. > >> I never got my change and my wallet is now missing." > > > Like you said about the McD hot coffee - the complaints add up and in > > this case it would be far less trivial. > > You do understand that the victims will not complain because they > will never see any evidence that the transmitter even exists, yes? > What will they have to complain about? Falling over in a restaurant? The normal sober customer would find that odd? Finding their wallet missing? > There will be no evidence. > (I may have forgotten to make that point.) Other customers are likely to notice the behavioural changes that your imaginary weapon would produce if it worked. Witness reports do count as evidence. > Evidence. <-- The victims will never see it. But everybody else will see the victimn actig oddly. > > And when Mr FBI asks the store > > manager what happened, such is his loyalty to the corporation that said > > manager will happily go to prison for obstructing the investigation. > > Mr. FBI will never be involved. No crimes will be committed because > no law enforcement agency will ever be equipped to detect the > transmitter. A sufficently powerful electromagnetic field will stop mobile phones from working (by saturating the input stage of the recever). Even FBI officers carry this sort of equipment. > Even if you grabbed Eliot Ness by the collar, lifted > a drop ceiling panel and smacked a yardstick on the rim of the > parabolic antenna: > 1) He is not going to "officially" know what he's looking at. But he will appreciate that it is both unexpected and odd. > 2) If he does eventually understand what he is looking at, he can > reasonably point out that there is no law against that gear > in that place and that there is no evidence that it was used > illegitimately. You'd be surprised how many laws there are, and how creative the police can be in interpeting them when they feel that they are being played for a sucker. > 3) He may reasonably point out the lack of case law defining > microwave attack as 'assault'. If I directed enough microwave energy at you to heat your skin and encourage cataract formation in the lens of your eyes,I don't think you'd have much trouble getting me prosecuted for assault - the law doesn't talk about weapons as such, but effects. Englsih law distinguishes betweeen assault, which cases the victim to feel threatened, and grievous bodily harm, where the victimn is demonstrably damaged. > 4) If pressed he will point out that the restaurant owner has every > right to defend himself against armed robbers. But not to spray the rest of his customers with microwaves or shot-gun pellets or whatever other collatoral damage. > This will not be just an 'uphill battle' for honest targets. More a downhill slide. > It will be impossible for them because no one will ever understand > that the transmitter is in place and being used immorally. And stopping mobile phomes from working over a wide area? > > Anyway, the whole scheme of yours is just totally ludicrous from > > technical, legal and logistical points of view. > > How so? Technically, a slightly larger antenna, higher > carrier frequency and a good sized amplifier are the changes > needed to my original outline. Dare I mention that multiple > transmitters could provide excellent coverage? Only if you want to fry the victim's scalp, which is all > Legally, there is no prohibition against burning someone with > a microwave beam (for example). > It is not considered assault and perhaps never will be. Dream on. > For grins just now, I Googled > ("case law" "microwave burn" assault) > Got zero hits. That string is so unusual that it didn't even > show up in any 'word salad' harvesting site. It is a feasible form of assault, just hopelessly expensive for the effect created. > Logistically, a facilities installer working for cash on the side > could get a packaged system up and running within a couple hours > after arrival. If a "packaged system" could ever create the effect you have dreamed up. > > A total non-starter. If > > you think otherwise, mortgage your house, build and test a device and > > try and sell it to MacBurger for zapping customers. See you living in a > > cardboard box... > > I would never do that because the transmitter will represent the darkest > side of human thought. > > But mostly I feel that 'sunlight is the best disinfectant'. It doesn't seem to have disinfected you into silence. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 12:35 On 14/03/2010 08:44, Winston wrote: > On 3/13/2010 11:38 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > > (...) > >> First off, Adey is warning about chronic exposure, not acute effects. > > Adey demonstrated that modulated non-ionizing radiation can > replace legitimate interneural brain communication with > 'garbage input', likely to tax and confuse the unfortunate > owner of said brain. That is a key takeaway. Except it doesn't work in "real life" in any acute form. >> Beam spread primarily depends on dish size relative to carrier >> wavelength. A low GHz beam can be quite spread limited with a large >> dish. That's the basis of conventional microwave communications. > > And a high GHz beam can be sufficiently spread limited with a > very small dish. > >> Also, for calcium ion resonance (cyclotron resonance) you also need an >> external magnetic field to be matched to the radiation intensity. > > Resonance is not necessary. Dr. Adey showed that the > indicator of calcium efflux was caused by modulated non-ionizing radiation. In a geomagnetic field, which he did not take note of. That's why such effects only occur for relatively low power RF. Larger RF inputs swamp it. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 14 Mar 2010 12:37 On 14/03/2010 08:25, Winston wrote: > On 3/13/2010 10:29 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > (...) > >> http://www.neopax.com/technomage/TechnoMageContents.pdf >> >> Chapter 9 > > I conclude that beginning on page 235 of a document you wrote, > you present some opinions regarding electromagnetics. > > Good for you. :) > > --Winston It's a survey of the kinds of effects that interest you. Including ones you have never heard of. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Michael A. Terrell on 14 Mar 2010 13:35 Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > > Like you said about the McD hot coffee - the complaints add up and in > this case it would be far less trivial. And when Mr FBI asks the store > manager what happened, such is his loyalty to the corporation that said > manager will happily go to prison for obstructing the investigation. > > Anyway, the whole scheme of yours is just totally ludicrous from > technical, legal and logistical points of view. A total non-starter. If > you think otherwise, mortgage your house, build and test a device and > try and sell it to MacBurger for zapping customers. See you living in a > cardboard box... He would miscalculate the power levels, and fry what litte is left of his brain. -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
From: Winston on 14 Mar 2010 14:32
On 3/14/2010 9:35 AM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > On 14/03/2010 08:44, Winston wrote: (...) >> Adey demonstrated that modulated non-ionizing radiation can >> replace legitimate interneural brain communication with >> 'garbage input', likely to tax and confuse the unfortunate >> owner of said brain. That is a key takeaway. > > Except it doesn't work in "real life" in any acute form. That depends on how you define the term 'acute'. The symptoms *will* occur instantly, for all intents. The symptoms will not include physical pain of any sort, let alone 'sharp' or 'intense' pain. Just temporary blindness, deafness and lack of clinical consciousness. So in that sense, I agree that the symptoms will not be properly characterized as 'acute' in all it's meanings. I am sure it would work exactly as I described it however. We shall never know. :) (...) >> Resonance is not necessary. Dr. Adey showed that the >> indicator of calcium efflux was caused by modulated non-ionizing >> radiation. > > In a geomagnetic field, which he did not take note of. I leapt to the conclusion that his tests were conducted under the influence of Earth's magnetic field, too. Perhaps they were not. > That's why such effects only occur for relatively low power RF. Larger > RF inputs swamp it. I really have no idea how the phenomenon works. Thanks for your thoughts on this, Dirk. --Winston |