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From: Paul Miner on 28 May 2010 08:48 On Thu, 27 May 2010 22:31:13 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <rnkuv5lqnbic8h8c6jr64s00baeu31qmhg(a)4ax.com>, Paul Miner ><pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: > >> >> You still don't understand what vaporware is. If it's available to any >> >> end users, (not necessarily ALL end users), then it's no longer >> >> vaporware. It's a simple concept. >> > >> >then iphone os 4 isn't vaporware either since it's available to some >> >end users, but not all (yet). very simple. >> >> That's a change then. Earlier in this thread you said it was not yet >> available to end users. > >i said it's available to developers, who are a subset of end users. >anyone that wants it can sign up and download it. Thanks for the clarification. Developers aren't end users, so I'd say it's back in the vapor category. -- Paul Miner
From: Paul Miner on 28 May 2010 08:51 On Thu, 27 May 2010 23:31:25 -0700, Steve Fenwick <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >Sorry about the misattribution. In my household, we run a variety of >products, new and old. We replace as needed and sometimes as the new >technology overtakes the old in interesting ways, but we are not a "new >car every year" household. > >Steve Very much the same for me and my household. -- Paul Miner
From: Krypsis on 28 May 2010 10:28 On 28/05/2010 3:31 PM, nospam wrote: > In article<rnkuv5lqnbic8h8c6jr64s00baeu31qmhg(a)4ax.com>, Paul Miner > <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: > >>>> You still don't understand what vaporware is. If it's available to any >>>> end users, (not necessarily ALL end users), then it's no longer >>>> vaporware. It's a simple concept. >>> >>> then iphone os 4 isn't vaporware either since it's available to some >>> end users, but not all (yet). very simple. >> >> That's a change then. Earlier in this thread you said it was not yet >> available to end users. > > i said it's available to developers, who are a subset of end users. > anyone that wants it can sign up and download it. Developers are NOT end users. They are the "creators" of software, those people who write software for the end users to use. Developers typically do not have to "buy" the product but the end users most certainly will have to fork out the hard cash. Beta testers "may" be considered a special subset of end users who also won't have to pay for the product but you didn't mention them in your post. That said, many software companies are treating end users like beta testers given the bugs that so many finished products are riddled with! Krypsis
From: Char Jackson on 28 May 2010 12:21 On Thu, 27 May 2010 22:31:13 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <rnkuv5lqnbic8h8c6jr64s00baeu31qmhg(a)4ax.com>, Paul Miner ><pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: > >> >> You still don't understand what vaporware is. If it's available to any >> >> end users, (not necessarily ALL end users), then it's no longer >> >> vaporware. It's a simple concept. >> > >> >then iphone os 4 isn't vaporware either since it's available to some >> >end users, but not all (yet). very simple. >> >> That's a change then. Earlier in this thread you said it was not yet >> available to end users. > >i said it's available to developers, who are a subset of end users. >anyone that wants it can sign up and download it. Right, so that puts it squarely in the vaporware camp.
From: nospam on 28 May 2010 13:45
In article <6revv5lii9bin5fcj5tgd5kq3vtcjn478o(a)4ax.com>, Paul Miner <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: > Thanks for the clarification. Developers aren't end users, so I'd say > it's back in the vapor category. of course developers are end users. they not only use the phone they develop for it. |