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From: nospam on 28 May 2010 14:25 In article <fh0006dk2lto5b1l6uc5fqb886ou1qavvp(a)4ax.com>, Paul Miner <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: > Sure, they could eventually be end users, but for now they are > developers. Hence, the product is not yet released and is therefore > vaporware. it's not either/or. developers are end users. they were probably end users before they became developers. just because they develop doesn't mean they don't also use the phone. > I don't know how many ways you can twist this simple concept, but > every time you arrive right back where we started. i'm not the one twisting. you can keep trying to define what an end user or developer is, but both iphone os 4 and android 2.2 have been released in limited ways. one is just developers and the other is for only one model phone that didn't sell very well. most android users can't update yet, even if they wanted to.
From: Paul Miner on 28 May 2010 16:45 On Fri, 28 May 2010 11:25:45 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <fh0006dk2lto5b1l6uc5fqb886ou1qavvp(a)4ax.com>, Paul Miner ><pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: > >> Sure, they could eventually be end users, but for now they are >> developers. Hence, the product is not yet released and is therefore >> vaporware. > >it's not either/or. developers are end users. they were probably end >users before they became developers. just because they develop doesn't >mean they don't also use the phone. > >> I don't know how many ways you can twist this simple concept, but >> every time you arrive right back where we started. > >i'm not the one twisting. > >you can keep trying to define what an end user or developer is, I've never done that. I've only tried repeatedly to explain to you what vaporware is (and isn't). Your resistance doesn't change anything. >but >both iphone os 4 and android 2.2 have been released in limited ways. >one is just developers and the other is for only one model phone that >didn't sell very well. most android users can't update yet, even if >they wanted to. By what you're telling me directly above, Android 2.2 is released and OS 4 is not yet released and is therefore vaporware. -- Paul Miner
From: Paul Miner on 28 May 2010 16:46 On Fri, 28 May 2010 11:17:30 -0700, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <htovpp$e74$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin ><nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote: > >> > of course developers are end users. they not only use the phone they >> > develop for it. >> >> But end users are not developers. > >some are. Completely irrelevant. We aren't talking about developers, we're talking about whether a particular piece of software has been released to end users. In this context, developers are not end users, obviously. -- Paul Miner
From: Justin on 29 May 2010 00:18 nospam wrote on [Fri, 28 May 2010 11:25:45 -0700]: > In article <fh0006dk2lto5b1l6uc5fqb886ou1qavvp(a)4ax.com>, Paul Miner > <pminer(a)elrancho.invalid> wrote: > >> Sure, they could eventually be end users, but for now they are >> developers. Hence, the product is not yet released and is therefore >> vaporware. > > it's not either/or. developers are end users. they were probably end > users before they became developers. just because they develop doesn't > mean they don't also use the phone. Developers may be end users, but end users are not developers, and it hasn't been released to end users. I know it's a simple concept and it's easy to understand. > i'm not the one twisting. hahahaha. > you can keep trying to define what an end user or developer is, but > both iphone os 4 and android 2.2 have been released in limited ways. > one is just developers and the other is for only one model phone that > didn't sell very well. most android users can't update yet, even if > they wanted to. Limited or not, end users have access to it. End users who are nothing but end users. Just because a game is released that is console only doesn't mean it's vapourware because it isn't available to PC gamers.
From: nospam on 29 May 2010 00:23
In article <htq4ig$tc2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote: > Limited or not, end users have access to it. End users who are nothing > but end users. very few of them. they must have a nexus one and seek it out manually. adobe has not yet released flash 10.1 for that matter, and that's part of android 2.2. even the htc evos that google *gave* to attendees for free does not have 2.2 because htc has won't be releasing 2.2 for months. > Just because a game is released that is console only doesn't mean > it's vapourware because it isn't available to PC gamers. only to console users is it available. for pc users it's still vapor. |